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Old 11-22-2014, 05:56 PM   #1
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Registrg Used Bike frm WV Dealer in Maryland

I am confused about this process, and was hoping someone could explain before I go to the DMV and find out I don't have all the paperwork I need...

Today I bought a used (590 miles) 2013 DR650 at Romney's Cycles in WV (Scwiiingg!.. ahem). Anyway, they gave me a WV temp tag and I paid a title fee and sales tax.

If I had bought new, the dealership could have gotten me a MD hard tag and this would be a non-issue. Since the bike is used I'll need an inspection slip, and Romney is not MD State Inspection licensed, so I have to get it inspected in MD.

But what about the sales tax? Will I have to pay that to WV and to MD? Do I have to wait until I get the WV title in the mail before I go to the DMV or will the Bill of Sale and WV registration be enough? Another thing is the Bill of Sale isn't notarized. Will they be sticklers about that? I have all the loan paperwork- it's obviously a dealer sale with a clear price..

Has anyone here gone through a similar situation?

Thanks for any illumination on this......
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Old 11-22-2014, 06:28 PM   #2
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Not a MVA expert but you will need the Title and MD inspection.
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Old 11-22-2014, 06:29 PM   #3
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But what about the sales tax? Will I have to pay that to WV and to MD? Do I have to wait until I get the WV title in the mail before I go to the DMV or will the Bill of Sale and WV registration be enough?
If you want to plate it in MD it will have to have a MD title. When you transfer the title you will pay MD sales tax.

You will need the WV title to transfer the title , plus MD inspection paper, and ins to get plates.

Bill of sale, WV temp registration, & loan papers will get you nowhere.
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Old 11-22-2014, 07:06 PM   #4
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If you want to plate it in MD it will have to have a MD title. When you transfer the title you will pay MD sales tax.

You will need the WV title to transfer the title , plus MD inspection paper, and ins to get plates.

Bill of sale, WV temp registration, & loan papers will get you nowhere.
That's what I was afraid of. So basically the dealer screwed me. He told me before I went down there it would be tagged and ready. When I got there he told me about the State inspection thing. I should have bought the bike without the WV temp tag and just gotten the tag in MD once the WV title came through. Now I'm paying tax twice. Looks like I have some phone calls to make....
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Old 11-22-2014, 07:24 PM   #5
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Please let us know what Romney says. I was thinking they sell a fair amount of bikes to out of staters and should know the drill.
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Old 11-22-2014, 07:35 PM   #6
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Please let us know what Romney says. I was thinking they sell a fair amount of bikes to out of staters and should know the drill.

Yeah. I should say I don't think they did this on purpose- the kid who I was dealing with had not handled an out of state used buy before. I'm sure they will straighten it out fairly. Besides this I was really happy with the service and the price.
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Old 11-23-2014, 06:46 AM   #7
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The dealer didn't screw you, they sold the bike in WV and gave you a WV temp tag.
To give you this tag they have to show that they collected tax on it.

When you get your WV title you'll need to transfer it to MD and get the MD state inspection.
Then MD can screw you out of the tax again.

I don't know if you trailered or rode it home, but if you trailered it then you would not have needed a temp tag.
They still have to do the paperwork for the WV title tho.

Not sure if you showing that you paid WV tax would help you in MD or not, as they just want their money.

Best option is to move to WV, since your bike is already titled there
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Old 11-23-2014, 06:52 AM   #8
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I bought my Suzuki TU250x from Romney back in 2010 ,Paid cash,They delivered the bike to my house in Glen Burnie Md. The title showed up in the mail a few days later. Went to the DMV Paid the MD sales tax and tag and title fees,showed proof of insurance,Done deal.

I suspect if you have proof of inspection added to that pile of info you should be good to go.

Quite a few Folks in states that surround Romney have bought bikes this way.
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Not sure if you showing that you paid WV tax would help you in MD or not, as they just want their money.
They will get the money.

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Best option is to move to WV, since your bike is already titled there
This.

The OP getting a WV title sounds a little strange to me, what with him being a MD resident. Don't you have to be a WV resident, with a WV address to title a vehicle in WV?
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So.. lesson here is, if buying from an out of state dealer, do not tag and have them deliver, and you will not have to pay taxes in the dealer's state?

MD will get their sales tax.... on USED vehicles... A friggin crime imo.

Out of all the vehicles I have owned I never bought one from and out of state dealer, so this is interesting.
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When you get the inspection done, make super-sure the letters & numbers are super-obvious on the form I mean COMPLETELY super obvious. I had an inspection form turned away at the DMV because the clerk thought a 5 was an S or the reverse or whatever so the record wouldn't come up and she refused to try the alternative. Wasted a couple days on that one. It was suggested to me to to just get back in line and try someone else... might've worked or might not.

Wouldn't mind getting out of MD either, would head up to NH if I had the option...

Maybe the bike had a WV title already and they signed it over? Then MD would transfer it.. thats where the states get their $$$ and their sales/excise taxes. Getting a real WV tag seems unnecessary unless the OP was going to ride it home then a WV temp tag would be in order which would be cheap.
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Don't you have to be a WV resident, with a WV address to title a vehicle in WV?
Being a WV dealer they are unable to title it in any other state.
If MD would allow them to register as a MD titling agency they could give you a MD title. But I really don't see that happening.

They sell a lot of bikes to folks in other states.
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The dealer didn't screw you, they sold the bike in WV and gave you a WV temp tag.
To give you this tag they have to show that they collected tax on it.

When you get your WV title you'll need to transfer it to MD and get the MD state inspection.
Then MD can screw you out of the tax again.

I don't know if you trailered or rode it home, but if you trailered it then you would not have needed a temp tag.
They still have to do the paperwork for the WV title tho.

Not sure if you showing that you paid WV tax would help you in MD or not, as they just want their money.

Best option is to move to WV, since your bike is already titled there
Well, he might not have screwed me on purpose, but I would have done things differently if I'd known about this rigamarole. Like I said, I was told before I arrived the bike would be hard-tagged and ready to go. Only when I got there did he spring the State Inspection stuff on me.
I brought the bike home in my truck, so I didn't need a temp tag from WV. I could have skipped that part.
I'll investigate this Monday. I can't believe I'll have to pay tax twice. If intrastate internet commerce isn't taxed twice, why would an out of state vehicle sale be taxed twice?
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When you get the inspection done, make super-sure the letters & numbers are super-obvious on the form I mean COMPLETELY super obvious. I had an inspection form turned away at the DMV because the clerk thought a 5 was an S or the reverse or whatever so the record wouldn't come up and she refused to try the alternative. Wasted a couple days on that one. It was suggested to me to to just get back in line and try someone else... might've worked or might not.

Wouldn't mind getting out of MD either, would head up to NH if I had the option...

Maybe the bike had a WV title already and they signed it over? Then MD would transfer it.. thats where the states get their $$$ and their sales/excise taxes. Getting a real WV tag seems unnecessary unless the OP was going to ride it home then a WV temp tag would be in order which would be cheap.
Yeah, been here too. I had to cajole a State Trooper into verifying the VIN on a bike in the MVA parking lot and then tell the counter help. Maybe one of her super-long fingernails was blocking a numeral on the slip.


I would move to WV in a heartbeat if I thought I could find a job. There's not much in my line of work down there that pays. MD sucks out loud in a lot of ways.
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Old 11-23-2014, 07:51 AM   #15
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Save yourself the headache of dealing with the MVA and use a tag and title service.

I have been rejected on technicalities at the MVA and gone across the street to Terry's Tag and Title and walked out with tags in less time than I waited at the MVA.

Agreed, Maryland sucks and its getting worse.
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