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Old 02-28-2014, 05:46 PM   #1
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Flagstaff Sedona Area Ride

I am planning a trip in the next few weeks to go to the Flagstaff Area from NWA. I really just want to see a few things (Great Falls, Devil's Bridge, Interesting Sites) and came here for advice. I plan on being there 2-3 days and camping the whole time.

I have been riding on the streets for a long time, but am looking to finally get off of the beaten path a little bit. While I am there, I would like to hit some dirt roads and explore on my own a little bit.

So if you know the area and have any recommendations, they will be more than helpful. If anyone wants to meet up with me anywhere along the way, I am more than happy to have a companion too.

Basically, I would like camping area advice, sites to see (I am really only interested in natural sites), best guess for what to wear (Is it t-shirt weather in AZ right now?), and anything else you might think is important information.



I ride an 09 Versys with street tires and have camping gear and almost 10 years of riding experience but all street. Don't know if that makes a difference on where I should go.

Thank you in advance.

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Old 02-28-2014, 05:47 PM   #2
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By the way, I always wear gear when I ride, I meant what to wear when I'm off the bike, as I like to hike a lot too. Much like Mntdawg.
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Old 02-28-2014, 06:25 PM   #3
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Gteamer,
I think you are talking about Grand Falls out on the Navajo Indian Reservation. Neat but it's far neater when the water is flowing and that doesn't happen real often. Still, if you head out there after a rainstorm, you might get lucky seeing the falls but unlucky getting stuck in the mud.
Definitely consider the Flagstaff lava river cave... 35.342402, -111.835922. There is a little bit of dirt to get to it but nothing a Versys couldn't handle. No dirt at all but Walnut Canyon is really neat if your into Indian dwellings in cliffsides... better bring some better shoes though as there is a lot of stairs. I've never heard of Devil's Bridge so I'm gonna have to go look that up NOW!
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Old 02-28-2014, 09:24 PM   #4
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Thanks for the advice. The Lava Flow Caves look really cool. I will definitely be looking into that and the cliff dwellings as well.

Will the local campsites necessitate a tent or will my hammock be enough?
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Someone else is going to have to chime in on that one as the only camping I do in Flagstaff and surrounding areas is in a 30' travel trailer!
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Old 02-28-2014, 09:47 PM   #6
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URL="http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g60971-d1157200-Reviews-Lava_River_Cave-Flagstaff_Arizona.html"] lava river cave[/URL]... 35.342402, -111.835922. There is a little bit of dirt to get to it but nothing a Versys couldn't handle. !
What is at the cave?
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Old 02-28-2014, 09:53 PM   #7
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It's a dormant lava tube that you can hike through for 3/4 of a mile. It varies in size from gotta hunch over to being able to fit 2 Greyhound bus's side by side inside.
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Old 03-01-2014, 05:23 AM   #8
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A good run on some dirt would be a run from Jerome to Williams. I have done this on my vstrom and its a nice ride. Great views of the Verde Valley and skirts the Sykamore Canyon Wilderness. On many maps its listed as NF318-Perkinsville RD to 73 into Williams. Real backcountry Arizona with lots of Wildlife. There are some great Cliffdwellings along the way but a little to rough for the Verseys...
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devil's bridge is outside sedona, but the roads to it are iffy for street tires. rocks and ruts, and too many people. i agree on the williams to jerome run. and when (if) you get to jerome, go up the mountain on 89a to the top, and take fr104 to the left, then the first right to fr413 south, then fr132 south at a fork which goes to cherry. turn left at cherry and carefully go down into the verde valley. road is loose dg and slippy. the majority of the time you are in the national forest and can camp anywhere the prescott or coconino nf mvum says you can. if that wasn't enought dirt, then at sr260 east of cherry, turn right and go to camp verde. turn right on oasis rd, right on copper canyon at the bottom. go all the way up to the top of the canyon (closing the gates behind you) til you get to the main dirt road (68d). go left and follow the road to dugas. go right on dugas rd, under I-17, and north on orme rd til you get back to sr169 outside of cherry. you will be sick of it by then or before. we have more dirt roads here than paved.
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http://dualsport-sd.com/forums/index...arizona/page-2

Some motivation. Hmmm...my pics have disappeared. Hafta go fix that.

Also, contact http://coconinotrailriders.org/ They were very helpful in outlining some routes.
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Thank you for all of the ideas. The Jerome to Williams does look fun from what I can see.

I will try and go to Devil's Bridge, but it sounds like I am going to have to take my time.

The hardest part will be making my self pack up at the end of this trip and drive back across OK and TX.
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best guess for what to wear (Is it t-shirt weather in AZ right now?), and anything else you might think is important information.
Weather here in AZ is highly variable this time of year. Layering is key, even when hiking. Daytime highs in your area of interest for this time could be anywhere from 30 to 80 degrees! Snow, rain, and mud are all possibilities, though up until this weekend, it had been bone dry for a month or so.

Hammock camping in the wooded areas around Flag, Williams, and Sedona would be great, so long as you have insulation under you like a hammock quilt or insulated sleeping pad. If you took the Perkinsville route and forced to camp...your hammock better be suitable as an emergency ground tent because there are places without any trees there.

Get the latest MVUM from the forest to stay on legal tracks. Coconino has a digital version you can load to your phone or ipad and will show your location on the map, assuming your device is gps enabled. Some roads may be seasonally closed due to "snow", so it is best to check before heading from Flagstaff to Sedona via backroads.


But even when you check with the rangers...sometimes you get bad intel

Have a great visit!
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But even when you check with the rangers...sometimes you get bad intel

Have a great visit!
Thank you very much! Exactly the type of information I was looking for.

I plan on bringing plenty of layers and a backup tent. I have an airpad I use in my tent and hammock. Hopefully I can make this trip without an indecent like this, but then where would the adventure be?!
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Old 03-02-2014, 05:42 PM   #14
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I will be sure to post pictures here, and on the AZ Ride Hike Ride forum after my trip as well. Really appreciate all of the advice, and anything that you may think I would find helpful, let me know.
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I have another question that I just thought of. In the case that I am camping out in the middle of nowhere, what are the rules on fires in AZ? I am guessing that you can't just build one anywhere.

For instance, in Arkansas, as long as there isn't a burn ban you can build a fire for cooking or warmth most places. It has to be in a contained place like a fire ring, but it is perfectly fine. Like on the Ozark Trail, you can build a fire anywhere. Yet in Missouri, you have to be in a designated fire pit or container.

Obviously I know to be very cautious with fire, put it out and keep it small and contained. However, I just like having a small fire to sit next to after a day of adventure. Any thoughts?
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