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Old 03-01-2014, 02:39 PM   #1
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Ktm 1190 r adventure gearing?

Has anyone come up with a suitable gearing selection for off-road for the 2014 KTM 1190r? It seems to be geared tall enough for the road but way too tall for local fire roads I would like to make a change to the countershaft sprocket and drop one or possibly two teeth tried it here?
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Old 03-01-2014, 02:41 PM   #2
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Dropped one on the front....worked out great....
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Old 03-01-2014, 02:50 PM   #3
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Two in the rear. No chain mod required
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Old 03-01-2014, 03:25 PM   #4
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Dropped one on the front....worked out great....
doing the same as nowwhat.
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Old 03-01-2014, 07:50 PM   #5
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Went up 3 on the rear. Stock chain
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Old 03-01-2014, 08:39 PM   #6
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16 on the front.
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Old 03-02-2014, 10:21 AM   #7
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42 42 44 45 % 17 16 17 17
2.47059 2.625 2.58824 2.64706

Here are the ratios, stock 17/42, 16/42, 17/44, 17/45

Hard to notice the difference between 16/42 and 17/45. Nice that all of these can be done with the standard chain. IMO, changing the front is easier than the rear.
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Old 03-02-2014, 12:02 PM   #8
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And here I am wanting it geared higher.....
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Old 03-02-2014, 01:25 PM   #9
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And here I am wanting it geared higher.....
Ok, so http://www.cs.trinity.edu/~jhowland/...00&final=17r42 is a link to compute:

Speed table for 2014 KTM 1190R

Primary drive ratio = 40r76

Rear Wheel Circumference = 2127 mm

Gear ratios = 12r35 15r32 18r30 20r27 24r27 27r26

RPMs = 1000 1500 2000 3000 4000 5000 6000 7000 8000 9000

Final drive ratio = 17r42

_ 1000 1500 2000 3000 4000 5000 6000 7000 8000 9000
1 6 9 12 17 23 29 35 41 46 52
2 8 12 16 24 32 40 48 55 63 71
3 10 15 20 30 41 51 61 71 81 91
4 13 19 25 38 50 63 75 88 100 113
5 15 23 30 45 60 75 90 105 120 135
6 18 26 35 53 70 88 105 123 140 158


So at idle (1500 rpm) your scooting along at 9 mph. Lot's of clutch slipping on single track.

You can copy/paste the above link and edit the very last entry 17r42 to what ever final gearing you want to use (say 16r45) to see what speeds you get with that gearing.

16/45 final gearing.
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Old 03-02-2014, 01:37 PM   #10
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Ok, so http://www.cs.trinity.edu/~jhowland/...00&final=17r42 is a link to compute:

Speed table for 2014 KTM 1190R

Primary drive ratio = 40r76

Rear Wheel Circumference = 2127 mm

Gear ratios = 12r35 15r32 18r30 20r27 24r27 27r26

RPMs = 1000 1500 2000 3000 4000 5000 6000 7000 8000 9000

Final drive ratio = 17r42


_ 1000 1500 2000 3000 4000 5000 6000 7000 8000 9000
1 6 9 12 17 23 29 35 41 46 52
2 8 12 16 24 32 40 48 55 63 71
3 10 15 20 30 41 51 61 71 81 91
4 13 19 25 38 50 63 75 88 100 113
5 15 23 30 45 60 75 90 105 120 135
6 18 26 35 53 70 88 105 123 140 158


So at idle (1500 rpm) your scooting along at 9 mph. Lot's of clutch slipping on single track.

You can copy/paste the above link and edit the very last entry 17r42 to what ever final gearing you want to use (say 16r45) to see what speeds you get with that gearing.

16/45 final gearing.
Ummmm......lots of time on your hands.......Like me .....

I have no real intention of gearing it higher....was occupying my time on a very cold and snowy day. So ready for winter to be over.

Also glad I gave up of Aeronautics and went medical prettier girls and all.....

Tarmac and gravel is about all I will do so gearing it lower for me serves no function and its already damn fast
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Old 03-02-2014, 01:46 PM   #11
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Ummmm......lots of time on your hands.......Like me .....
Yea, former education which is pretty much useless now.
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Old 03-02-2014, 02:44 PM   #12
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Wow!

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Ok, so http://www.cs.trinity.edu/~jhowland/...00&final=17r42 is a link to compute:

Speed table for 2014 KTM 1190R

Primary drive ratio = 40r76

Rear Wheel Circumference = 2127 mm

Gear ratios = 12r35 15r32 18r30 20r27 24r27 27r26

RPMs = 1000 1500 2000 3000 4000 5000 6000 7000 8000 9000

Final drive ratio = 17r42

_ 1000 1500 2000 3000 4000 5000 6000 7000 8000 9000
1 6 9 12 17 23 29 35 41 46 52
2 8 12 16 24 32 40 48 55 63 71
3 10 15 20 30 41 51 61 71 81 91
4 13 19 25 38 50 63 75 88 100 113
5 15 23 30 45 60 75 90 105 120 135
6 18 26 35 53 70 88 105 123 140 158


So at idle (1500 rpm) your scooting along at 9 mph. Lot's of clutch slipping on single track.

You can copy/paste the above link and edit the very last entry 17r42 to what ever final gearing you want to use (say 16r45) to see what speeds you get with that gearing.

16/45 final gearing.

I am WAY to dumb to understand/figure this out!!
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Old 03-02-2014, 04:49 PM   #13
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Ok, so http://www.cs.trinity.edu/~jhowland/...00&final=17r42 is a link to compute:

Speed table for 2014 KTM 1190R

Primary drive ratio = 40r76

Rear Wheel Circumference = 2127 mm

Gear ratios = 12r35 15r32 18r30 20r27 24r27 27r26

RPMs = 1000 1500 2000 3000 4000 5000 6000 7000 8000 9000

Final drive ratio = 17r42

_ 1000 1500 2000 3000 4000 5000 6000 7000 8000 9000
1 6 9 12 17 23 29 35 41 46 52
2 8 12 16 24 32 40 48 55 63 71
3 10 15 20 30 41 51 61 71 81 91
4 13 19 25 38 50 63 75 88 100 113
5 15 23 30 45 60 75 90 105 120 135
6 18 26 35 53 70 88 105 123 140 158


So at idle (1500 rpm) your scooting along at 9 mph. Lot's of clutch slipping on single track.

You can copy/paste the above link and edit the very last entry 17r42 to what ever final gearing you want to use (say 16r45) to see what speeds you get with that gearing.

16/45 final gearing.
Thank you for this post that's exactly what I was looking for. I am more than likely going to go from 17/42 to 16/45. That way the bike will still retain its street ability while being suitable for off Road. After all who here really has a use for 160+ miles per hour. On a sidenote; 1 tooth in the front is equal to three teeth in the rear.
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Old 03-02-2014, 05:06 PM   #14
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I am WAY to dumb to understand/figure this out!!
Click on the link in the message and it will take you to a web site which produces the table shown in the message.

On that page, the URL shown in the browser line ends in 17r42. This represents the OEM final gear ratio. Use the cursor arrows to change the 17r42 to some other set of sprocket values leaving everything else intact on the browser line. Press enter and the program will compute the speeds at various rpm's for each of the gears for the new sprocket values. Here's the link again.
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Old 03-02-2014, 05:16 PM   #15
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Thank you for this post that's exactly what I was looking for. I am more than likely going to go from 17/42 to 16/45. That way the bike will still retain its street ability while being suitable for off Road. After all who here really has a use for 160+ miles per hour. On a sidenote; 1 tooth in the front is equal to three teeth in the rear.
16/45 is what I used to run on my 2007 990. Worked great there. Probably will work even better on the 1190R.

This program assumes an 18" rear wheel. One of its inputs needs to be changed for the outside circumference of the 17" rear wheel if you have an 1190 Adventure. The value you input is 10 times the circumference in mm. In the example I used

circumference=21270

was for the 18" wheel. All these input values show up on the browser URL line and can be edited in the usual way on what ever computer/phone/pad you use.
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