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Old 03-05-2014, 06:01 PM   #46
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And THEN six more cars go thru.
At least it won't catch anyone by surprise.
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Old 03-05-2014, 06:17 PM   #47
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NHTSA has "uniform guidelines", however, they are guidelines, not laws or federally enforceable regulation

there is also AASHTO (American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials) that has recommended standards as well, again, they are recommended, not law, except that many states & municipalities have adopted these standards as their local regulation, even than, they are regulations (subject to waivers), not laws

in other words, there is no such law that you speak of
I'm trying to find the article stating a federal minimum for yellow lights.
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Old 03-05-2014, 06:32 PM   #48
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I'm trying to find the article stating a federal minimum for yellow lights.

I bet there isn't one. The ones with cameras are way too quick.
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Old 03-05-2014, 06:35 PM   #49
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Federal guidelines say three second minimum.
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Old 03-05-2014, 06:39 PM   #50
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I'm trying to find the article stating a federal minimum for yellow lights.
article? because an author misconstrues guidelines and non government recommendations as laws you believe em


Why not go directly to the source, National Highway Traffic Safety Adminstration
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Old 03-05-2014, 06:48 PM   #51
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My wife got nabbed by photo radar the other day, in her car. (allegedly running a red light, which she claims she didn't do...that she may have gone thru on a yellow) No doubt it's her car, good photo of her driving. The notice came in the regular mail and asked her to fess up and pay a fine with a mild warning that if she didn't there might be an additional penalty.

She asked a friend who is a police officer and works for the jurisdiction that issued the ticket, his advice was to "just throw it away" He said that if it wasn't delivered by a LEO or an officer of the court, it's invalid and you don't even have to respond.

What do you all think? Any experience you can share? Thanks
Don't throw it away. While it's not a legal issue, it will be a credit issue...complete with collection and a judgement...if you ignore it. Rather than points against your license, it's points against your credit rating, in a sense.

I got one of these in Iowa for speeding (the state is full of them in every major city) and tried to fight it. The system was designed so you can't.

I paid it.
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Old 03-05-2014, 06:57 PM   #52
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Federal guidelines say three second minimum.

I really gotta call BS

guidelines do not say that, recommendations vary depending on speed limit, and distance thru intersection

while I'm not a traffic engineer with the guidelines at my fingertips, I work close enuf to the industry and smart enuf to know that a traffic light on a street that has 6 lanes of cross traffic has a recommendation closer to 10 seconds, at 3 seconds, the light would turn red before you got halfway thru

3 seconds for a minimum 2 lane crossing with no shoulders or sidewalks, maybe
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I really gotta call BS

guidelines do not say that, recommendations vary depending on speed limit, and distance thru intersection

while I'm not a traffic engineer with the guidelines at my fingertips, I work close enuf to the industry and smart enuf to know that a traffic light on a street that has 6 lanes of cross traffic has a recommendation closer to 10 seconds, at 3 seconds, the light would turn red before you got halfway thru

3 seconds for a minimum 2 lane crossing with no shoulders or sidewalks, maybe
Put up or shut up.
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Put up or shut up.
already told you where the guidelines and recommendations are

and that I don't have them at my fingertips

but here ya go

https://bookstore.transportation.org...s.aspx?id=2200
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Old 03-05-2014, 09:21 PM   #55
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already told you where the guidelines and recommendations are

and that I don't have them at my fingertips

but here ya go

https://bookstore.transportation.org...s.aspx?id=2200
Not federal, just industry. There is no "federal standard", just non-regulatory guidelines and recommendations by various organizations.
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Not federal, just industry. There is no "federal standard", just non-regulatory guidelines and recommendations by various organizations.
that's what I've been sayin

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NHTSA has "uniform guidelines", however, they are guidelines, not laws or federally enforceable regulation

there is also AASHTO (American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials) that has recommended standards as well, again, they are recommended, not law, except that many states & municipalities have adopted these standards as their local regulation, even than, they are regulations (subject to waivers), not laws

in other words, there is no such law that you speak of
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that's what I've been sayin
Sorry, I should have quoted the troll instead.
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My wife got nabbed by photo radar the other day, in her car. (allegedly running a red light, which she claims she didn't do...that she may have gone thru on a yellow) No doubt it's her car, good photo of her driving. The notice came in the regular mail and asked her to fess up and pay a fine with a mild warning that if she didn't there might be an additional penalty.

She asked a friend who is a police officer and works for the jurisdiction that issued the ticket, his advice was to "just throw it away" He said that if it wasn't delivered by a LEO or an officer of the court, it's invalid and you don't even have to respond.

What do you all think? Any experience you can share? Thanks
Sounds like she ignored the traffic signal device no mater how you look at it. Either she blatantly ran the light red, wasn't paying attention (which is the scariest of the scenarios), or got caught trying to beat the light (not stopping for the yellow). All goes against the laws.

I know with mine they give you a video and a pic. The video shows you coming to, running the light and the status of the light you ran. Pretty much makes or breaks the case for you. I know places are different.

You can ignore it, but do you really want it to bite you in the behind at the wrong moment? Would hate to get pulled over for something later on and find out they suspended your license.
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