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Old 03-06-2014, 10:44 AM   #1
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950 SE the biggest turd in the world???

This is clearly going to be a rant and I acknowledge the fact. I have not ridden my SE for almost a year and a half b/c of mechanical issues and calendaring issues b/w the mechanic and me.

First ride since I got the bike back and it flipping dies at a stop light. Just shuts off! It is clearly an electrical issue as the starter will not even spin up and I just finished riding nearly 30 miles. I called the mechanic and he says he thinks it could be the speedo b/c he has had to replace 5 or 6 of them on the 950s. The last thing the mechanic touched was the kickstand switch b/c it went out and he has bypassed it. He says that should not be a problem b/c the speedo is not acknowledging the neutral position and the side stand switch has nothing to do with that. Then I notice that the headlight no longer is on when I turn on the switch but the speedo still has electricity. Then the mechanic says that it maybe the regulating rectifier. He has replaced at least 6 of them on this bike.

Is the KTM that big of a turd that everything electrical is highly suspect?

Anyone else have as many electrical problems? The bike only has 6.5K miles one it b/c it has been sitting so long.

Rant over.

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Old 03-06-2014, 10:53 AM   #2
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You don't need a different bike....you need a different mechanic...

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Old 03-06-2014, 10:53 AM   #3
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Sounds like you may need a different mechanic.
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Old 03-06-2014, 11:15 AM   #4
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It's not a big turd.

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Sounds like you may need a different mechanic.
It's an awesome machine-just get it sorted out. How old is battery? Any shorts? Make sure connections to battery and any fuse blocks are tight and not corroded. Any wires rubbing on metal and rubbed through? Stator ok?
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Old 03-06-2014, 11:21 AM   #5
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The mechanic is the best KTM mechanic in the area. He is at a KTM dealership and the only reason that the dealership is still around is largely because of his skillset.

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Old 03-06-2014, 11:23 AM   #6
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Nope, 6 1/2 years no real issues electrically. Longest off the road a week waiting for new parts. Sound like your mechanic is the issue here, the SE is a stripped down Adv 950....if anything the lack of electronics make even more reliable.
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Old 03-06-2014, 11:31 AM   #7
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It could also be a hand full of "free" fixes, it should be properly diagnosed before throwing parts at it..

fyi if you hate it so much i'll gladly come give you a few grand to take it off your hands and rid you the misery of owning it.
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Old 03-06-2014, 12:02 PM   #8
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Sounds like you need a wiring diagram.

If you have the OEM clutch lever, pulling it in should make the clutch safety switch override the neutral position sensor and let the starter engage.

As far as dying suddenly, was it when you let out the clutch? Because if so, that means that the kickstand safety switch thought the stand was down and cut the ignition.

I've owned a 950 Adventure and a Super Enduro and have had zero electrical problems beyond regular battery replacement...

Is there an independent motorcycle shop in your area? Sometimes they are a way better bet than a dealership.

I'm sure it is pretty simple, just needs someone who knows how to troubleshoot electrics to take a gander at it.
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Old 03-06-2014, 12:03 PM   #9
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at least your not asking us to read your ride reports

I quadruple the mechanic statements. he's missing something. Throwing parts at a bike is not the answer, just cost you more in time, money and aggravation.

I had a very similar issue with my bike, came down to a frayed wire that was very intermittent, Once I found that, the planets aligned and its been 950 bliss.
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Old 03-06-2014, 12:11 PM   #10
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i'm thinking new mechanic as well. he may be very good at a lot of things, but apparently electrical is not his area of expertise.
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Old 03-06-2014, 12:56 PM   #11
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I'm in Cali. When you're ready to sell that Turd let me know.
I love polishing Turds to a showroom shine!



Your mechanic may be awesome at many things (motor builds,drivetrains, carburation) but Electrical may not be his strong point.
Besides dealer Mechanics generally love to replace parts. More $ for them. His employer!

You need to find someone who truely likes to fix bikes and not replace parts. I lucky to have a family member that is the amazing at resolving electrical issues.
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:21 PM   #12
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The mechanic is the best KTM mechanic in the area. He is at a KTM dealership and the only reason that the dealership is still around is largely because of his skillset.

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At a dealer? Really not saying much... On an SE electrical issues are pretty much limited to the Battery or the regulator and the occasional FP Never had an issue with the one I had
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:23 PM   #13
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He replaced 6 regulator rectifiers? Ouch, not exactly cheap.

The big thing is you usually hear them when they start to go.

You can try to move it away from the heat, did that to mine as preventative...

Love the SE electrics compared with other bikes they are simple. Start going over them yourself - good learning curve and ask loads of questions. Could be something as simple as a dirty fuse connection fixed with dielectric grease.

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Old 03-06-2014, 03:48 PM   #14
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Sounds like you need a wiring diagram.

If you have the OEM clutch lever, pulling it in should make the clutch safety switch override the neutral position sensor and let the starter engage.

As far as dying suddenly, was it when you let out the clutch? Because if so, that means that the kickstand safety switch thought the stand was down and cut the ignition.

I've owned a 950 Adventure and a Super Enduro and have had zero electrical problems beyond regular battery replacement...

Is there an independent motorcycle shop in your area? Sometimes they are a way better bet than a dealership.

I'm sure it is pretty simple, just needs someone who knows how to troubleshoot electrics to take a gander at it.
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Old 03-06-2014, 05:38 PM   #15
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I replaced the regulator on my bike at about 7k. If you replace the battery and the bike fires up check the volts for a few minutes my bike would show working fine but after it started to warm up it would put out 18 volts and fry the battery 3 to be exact. Also my fuel pump went out after crashing in the middle of no were. Replaced it with a vacuum pump and rebuilt stock pump with a doctor bean kit so now I have a back up. There not perfect. But are a hell of a lot of fun.
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