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Old 03-07-2014, 07:49 AM   #31
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Old 03-07-2014, 08:11 AM   #32
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When the stater is pressed the headlight is disconnected so that the starter gets more juice. When starter button is released the headlight comes back on.

This is not a true statement for the KTM 950/990. There is nothing configured to disconnect the headlight circuit while the start circuit is energized. What you are seeing is a significant sag in system voltage and the head light is only dimming as a result. Some motorcycles do this (disconnect the headlight), Honda did it on some of the models, but for this application, it is not the case. There are 4 relays, one is the Primary Main that is controlled by the key switch that energizes the lights and several other circuits, and provides power to the Secondary Main, the Secondary main is controlled by the bar switch, this energizes the ECU and a couple other systems, the ECU then controls the Fuel Pump relay. The remaining relay is the Safety Relay which controls if the start button works or not depending on side stand, gear position, clutch position.
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Old 03-07-2014, 08:49 AM   #33
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Old 03-07-2014, 08:53 AM   #34
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This is not a true statement for the KTM 950/990. There is nothing configured to disconnect the headlight circuit while the start circuit is energized. What you are seeing is a significant sag in system voltage and the head light is only dimming as a result. Some motorcycles do this (disconnect the headlight), Honda did it on some of the models, but for this application, it is not the case. There are 4 relays, one is the Primary Main that is controlled by the key switch that energizes the lights and several other circuits, and provides power to the Secondary Main, the Secondary main is controlled by the bar switch, this energizes the ECU and a couple other systems, the ECU then controls the Fuel Pump relay. The remaining relay is the Safety Relay which controls if the start button works or not depending on side stand, gear position, clutch position.
Bit of a hijack here, but since we're on the subject of the SE's electrical system, I'd love to know if there's a reasonably straightforward way of installing a switch to manually turn the headlight on & off (when offroad). I installed this set-up on my 990 but it was easy -- KTM sells a Euro switch and it's just plug & play. Seems more complicated on the SE . . . .
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Old 03-07-2014, 09:15 AM   #35
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Bit of a hijack here, but since we're on the subject of the SE's electrical system, I'd love to know if there's a reasonably straightforward way of installing a switch to manually turn the headlight on & off (when offroad). I installed this set-up on my 990 but it was easy -- KTM sells a Euro switch and it's just plug & play. Seems more complicated on the SE . . . .
Yes its possible, however not a 'plug/play' like the ADV since the bar harness and main harness plugs are different between the two models.
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Old 03-07-2014, 09:26 AM   #36
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Yes its possible, however not a 'plug/play' like the ADV since the bar harness and main harness plugs are different between the two models.
I also got it done on my 530 via a switch that came from Sicass Racing as I recall. I have HID's on all my bikes which run at lower amperage, but require slightly higher amperage than stock on start-up. The on/off option is nice since I can then wait a few secs. for the battery voltage to come up before switching on the HID. It's also to nice to have in the event you encounter an electrical issue and need to limp home.

Maybe you could add this onto your impressive lineup on advmachines?
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Old 03-07-2014, 09:31 AM   #37
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That sucks yours has an issue. Hardly a turd though you'll get it figured out.

I had the fuel pump die, other than that mines been good. I don't ride it as much as I would like so its only got 13,000 miles or something.
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Old 03-07-2014, 10:34 AM   #38
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This is not a true statement for the KTM 950/990. There is nothing configured to disconnect the headlight circuit while the start circuit is energized. What you are seeing is a significant sag in system voltage and the head light is only dimming as a result. Some motorcycles do this (disconnect the headlight), Honda did it on some of the models, but for this application, it is not the case. There are 4 relays, one is the Primary Main that is controlled by the key switch that energizes the lights and several other circuits, and provides power to the Secondary Main, the Secondary main is controlled by the bar switch, this energizes the ECU and a couple other systems, the ECU then controls the Fuel Pump relay. The remaining relay is the Safety Relay which controls if the start button works or not depending on side stand, gear position, clutch position.
OK, I stand corrected. I'm new to these great motorcycles..
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Old 03-07-2014, 10:40 AM   #39
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I'd love to know if there's a reasonably straightforward way of installing a switch to manually turn the headlight on & off (when offroad). . . . .
FYI...

THIS SWITCH is plug & play on the SE. I have one. Another inmate pointed me to it after I initially ordered the Euro switch for the Adventure, assuming it would work.



The SE molex plugs for those controls are wired like the EXC's & this switch pops right it. The "OFF" function works great. It has an LED indicator for turn signals, high beam, etc. on the top of the switch, which is nice for me, since I'm not running the stock instrument cluster.

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Old 03-07-2014, 10:51 AM   #40
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Old 03-07-2014, 11:00 AM   #41
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Old 03-07-2014, 11:01 AM   #42
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Old 03-07-2014, 11:02 AM   #43
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Old 03-07-2014, 05:18 PM   #44
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Without repeating what others have said maybe an auto/moto sparky would be a better choice than a mechanic?

Least they have the mindset to chase those gremlins that hide in our wiring harnesses.

Best to getting here sorted and turning her from a turd to shit hot!!
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Old 03-07-2014, 08:04 PM   #45
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