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Old 03-09-2014, 08:24 PM   #31
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I'm just going to sit here and wait for a trials rider to come in and say "I don't".
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Old 03-09-2014, 08:29 PM   #32
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I'm just going to sit here and wait for a trials rider to come in and say "I don't".
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Old 03-09-2014, 08:35 PM   #33
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Interesting that people approach the tank for more aggressive riding, never considered it that way. For me it's the opposite, but I ride sport bikes.

The way the seat is angled it seems more natural and comfortable to be right against the tank, which is how I sit for everyday riding. When I ride aggressively (i.e. at the track) I actually scoot back several inches to make it easier to slide off the seat on either side, as I was taught in track schools.
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Old 03-09-2014, 08:49 PM   #34
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I've had all kinds of bikes, FJR, XX, VFR, mostly sportbikes and I suppose I just got in the habit of riding up front to lessen the reach to the bars. Whether I'm touring or in the canyons I don't really move. Make fun of me all you want, it's just something I've always done. Reading about bar risers for bikes I wouldn't dream of putting them on has got we wondering though. Here's the kicker though, I've always struggled with butt pain.
You struggle with butt pain because your sit bones are not supported by the seat properly. In part, because you're sitting on the wrong part of it too much.

Part of the issue here is that most of us are not thinking you do many long rides if that's how your sitting, because of the very reason you mention, it's not comfortable. What you may think of a long ride, is possibly not what those of us with custom seats think of as a long ride. Most sport bikes have horrible ergos. Few, (not all), people are comfortable in that body position for much more than an hour or so before they are doing things to make themselves more comfortable.

Congrats if you're young, fit and can ride for hours folded over and up against the tank. You're a minority. That's why people put bar risers on bikes and sit back on the seat, to be in a more ergonomically neutral position.
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Old 03-09-2014, 09:15 PM   #35
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Do you have testicles, or did you give them to your wife?
Yeah, still got em. I'm rudely reminded every time I hit a nasty bump. Why ride that way then? LOL, good question.
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Old 03-09-2014, 09:18 PM   #36
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I raised my bars for two reasons - I don't like it when sitting on the bike seat I have to reach down to the bars, I like my forearms parallel to the road. Also, when standing on the pegs, if I have to bend over very much to reach the bars, it puts my head and body to far forward. I find it hard to ride off pavement when my knees and hands are to close together... As to where I park my "junk" on the seat - anywhere I want! Usually has something to do with the type of riding I happen to be doing at the time... Sometimes, I simply don't park my junk at all...
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Old 03-09-2014, 11:52 PM   #37
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I raised my bars for two reasons - I don't like it when sitting on the bike seat I have to reach down to the bars, I like my forearms parallel to the road. Also, when standing on the pegs, if I have to bend over very much to reach the bars, it puts my head and body to far forward. I find it hard to ride off pavement when my knees and hands are to close together... As to where I park my "junk" on the seat - anywhere I want! Usually has something to do with the type of riding I happen to be doing at the time... Sometimes, I simply don't park my junk at all...
Long distance, I ride up front for a while, scoot back for a while, use the rear pegs only, maybe hang off one cheek like a road racer, then the other, maybe one foot on the front peg and one on the rear for a while, then trade off. In heavy traffic or a fun section of road, mostly sitting up in an "attack" position. Then switch them up and do it all again. I try to move often, before the old position gets uncomfortable. Once in a great while, if I know I'm up long before any cops could have possibly left the donut shop, if the roafs are empty and dry, if the bike is really running well, I will lay down on the tank, feet on the rear pegs, chin bar of the helmet resting on the handlebars, and open the throttle. There is nothing quite like hearing the engine in full song, mechanically transmitted through the helmet, un muffled and unmodified by any thing to do with wind noise or airflow. But I'm just cool like that. Never could enjoy the highway pegs, the "having all of the weight on the ass until I can move my feet" position does not work for me at all. Really really feels dangerous. I have bought dozens of bikes with highway pegs, tried them, went home and removed every one. I don't know of any modern bikes with long flat seats made for this moving around, so my long distance bikes are all quite old.

I can drain the tank riding solo on old bikes, over and over again, for days. A hundred or so miles between stops is about it for two up or riding anything modern.

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Old 03-10-2014, 02:55 AM   #38
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Sounds retarded, but I always hear about putting bar risers on bikes like an FJR or even fully sit up and beg riding position bikes...and I just don't get it. The only explanation would be if you don't sit right up against the tank and plant your butt all the way back where the seat is the widest. Doing that would increase your reach by a good 3-4 inches and I guess I could see the need for riders.

If you don't sit with your crotch pressed up against the tank, why not?
Because a 6'3" tall person has longer arms and legs than a 5'3" person they'll likely sit further back to not be cramped. What am I missing here?
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Old 03-10-2014, 03:16 AM   #39
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For the same reason clothing comes in different sizes and proportions.
EXACTLY.

My arms are ridiculously long- I am 6'-2" tall but my wingspan in 6'-8".

Riding for any longer distance, I am most comfortable leaning forward so I am not near the tank (I would rather have the opposite of bar risers).

I have 2 custom seats for my K100RS- both sit me in a comfortable "pocket" and I would be climbing a hill to get near the tank.

I also ride a DRZ400 and am most comfortable more than halfway back on the seat.
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Old 03-10-2014, 03:57 AM   #40
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I had one of these as my first bike.



The seat was positioned in such a way that even if you did slide back, you would quickly slide back forward unless you were consciously pushing back away from the tank. That, coupled with the fact that my legs were too long to fit in those gas tank indents, made it no fun at all to ride for extended periods. I've found that the best way to ride for extended periods, is to be further back, and with your back in as straight as a line as possible. IMHO.

Put me down in the "further back" camp.
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Old 03-10-2014, 05:14 AM   #41
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EXACTLY.

My arms are ridiculously long- I am 6'-2" tall but my wingspan in 6'-8".

Riding for any longer distance, I am most comfortable leaning forward so I am not near the tank (I would rather have the opposite of bar risers).

I have 2 custom seats for my K100RS- both sit me in a comfortable "pocket" and I would be climbing a hill to get near the tank.

I also ride a DRZ400 and am most comfortable more than halfway back on the seat.
My dimensions are less extreme- 6 ft tall, and sit taller than you might expect. My arms are long but not that long, and I like to lean forward and put weight on the (European style)bars. I think this has a lot to do with my admiration for German motorcycles and my avoidance of Japanese ones.
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Old 03-10-2014, 05:34 AM   #42
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Long distance, I ride up front for a while, scoot back for a while, use the rear pegs only, maybe hang off one cheek like a road racer, then the other, maybe one foot on the front peg and one on the rear for a while, then trade off. In heavy traffic or a fun section of road, mostly sitting up in an "attack" position. Then switch them up and do it all again. I try to move often, before the old position gets uncomfortable. Never could enjoy the highway pegs, the "having all of the weight on the ass until I can move my feet" position does not work for me at all. Really really feels dangerous. I have bought dozens of bikes with highway pegs, tried them, went home and removed every one. I don't know of any modern bikes with long flat seats made for this moving around, so my long distance bikes are all quite old.

I can drain the tank riding solo on old bikes, over and over again, for days. A hundred or so miles is about it for two up or riding anything modern.
I can't sit comfortably on the base of my spine, I rock forward to more of a bicycle riding position. I need the long flat hard seat. The one I made for my bike has been called an anvil, but for a long ride it is perfect. It really is the saddle that determines the range of the motorcycle.
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Old 03-10-2014, 10:09 AM   #43
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Always as near at the tank as possible. Hour for hour for hour. Never understood the bar risers thing. Riding is like sex. I want to be as close to her as possible as long as possible. Maybe I will change if I get old. Hopefully I don't.
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Old 03-10-2014, 11:10 AM   #44
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