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Old 03-16-2014, 12:44 PM   #16
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Yes, I'm talking about the FZ6 that we both own, we are discussing low
torque at low revs compared to similar bikes, that we discussed at length
in the FZ6 thread where 1 guy doesn't agree, but he never tried the 650R,
or the Bandit 650, CBF600, Hornet 600 (Honda 599) etc..

100hp is 100hp, sure, when you wind it out, but at 3000-4000 revs, my
Ninja 650R would lift the front wheel up in 1st gear while the FZ6 feels like
it's got 1/3 the power there (I think it has like 24hp at 3000 or 4000 revs,
I forgot).

Dudeclone of course doesn't feel that either since it's his first big bike.
A twin of equal displacement builds torque much sooner / at lower RPMs than a four , although the peak amount will be similar. BIG BIKE?
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Old 03-16-2014, 01:45 PM   #17
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A twin of equal displacement builds torque much sooner / at lower RPMs than a four , although the peak amount will be similar. BIG BIKE?
After riding small scooters, a 100hp bike is nothing to laugh about.
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Old 03-16-2014, 02:01 PM   #18
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After riding small scooters, a 100hp bike is nothing to laugh about.
I agree , but we're talking MIDDLEWEIGHTS here.
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Old 03-16-2014, 02:03 PM   #19
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I agree , but we're talking MIDDLEWEIGHTS here.
We may be, but he isn't.
It's a subjective thing.
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Old 03-16-2014, 02:57 PM   #20
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If this was my bike, I'd do everything in my power to figure out what happened and if was wrecked, how it was fixed.
No way you want to find out after a shoddy part/weld/unfixed part gives way at 80mph. At least you should know what your risks are rather than living in ignorant bliss.

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Old 03-16-2014, 03:45 PM   #21
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thanks for all the replies, guys. and all the extra "bike talk"

and yes trc, i am going to have it looked at by a shop when i ride it in to introduce myself. i'll ask some questions and they can check it out from an experienced point of view. i figure they would know exactly what they are looking for and where to find it if some structural work was done on it. perhaps my insurer will have some info, too? or maybe a service similar to carfax? dmv? who knows....

pretty confident its ok, though. but as you said, just for a bit of certainty
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Old 03-17-2014, 05:19 PM   #22
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The dash is correct, I have an '07 as does my neighbor. I got mine from a friend who bought it new, he bought his new.

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i have not been past 10k yet but will be glad to do so at any given time today!!

it's just daylight out now and i have looked at the bike. it seems....nice. checked the oil and its clean and the level is where it was when i bought the bike. it seems solid







clean bike, apparently
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Old 03-17-2014, 05:53 PM   #23
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interesting, HaCha. so if i understand your post correctly perhaps some '07 FZ6's have tachs with a lower rpm redline?

if so might make sense since other owners such as Cortez have said the power maxes out at 12,500rpm, anyway. or at least "peaks" at 12,500rpm. and if indeed so why have a tach that continues to 16,000rpm?
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interesting, HaCha. so if i understand your post correctly perhaps some '07 FZ6's have tachs with a lower rpm redline?

if so might make sense since other owners such as Cortez have said the power maxes out at 12,500rpm, anyway. or at least "peaks" at 12,500rpm. and if indeed so why have a tach that continues to 16,000rpm?
To save money companies will use the same tach across multiple vehicles, and just replace the sticker with the redline. Same for speedos.

If you ever get into certain old muscle cars, the speedo tops out at 85, while the car itself will do about 50 mph more than that.
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Old 03-17-2014, 06:31 PM   #25
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To save money companies will use the same tach across multiple vehicles, and just replace the sticker with the redline. Same for speedos.

If you ever get into certain old muscle cars, the speedo tops out at 85, while the car itself will do about 50 mph more than that.
The 85 MPH speedo's were a federal thing to save us from ourselves on both cars and bikes.
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Old 03-18-2014, 04:29 AM   #26
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interesting, HaCha. so if i understand your post correctly perhaps some '07 FZ6's have tachs with a lower rpm redline?

if so might make sense since other owners such as Cortez have said the power maxes out at 12,500rpm, anyway. or at least "peaks" at 12,500rpm. and if indeed so why have a tach that continues to 16,000rpm?
Because it looks better when there is more of anything and some people are sold on that stuff.

I seriously doubt they used 2 different stlye dashes on the same bike.
Just go out and find out if you can rev it past 13k.

The needle on mine stops at ~14.100-14.200.

I've never seen anything but this on the FZ6 S2:


Also, the FZ6R came out later, so they couldn't have used a dash from
a bike that didn't even exist in 2007.
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i am getting there, Cortez!

gotta find a wide open road with no cops around. i have a freeway entrance a few miles away with a long, flat on ramp. guess i will take it there and "wind it out."

first gear to 13,000rpm? second gear? i keep thinking if i go above 10K its gonna blow up!

but we will see
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i am getting there, Cortez!

gotta find a wide open road with no cops around. i have a freeway entrance a few miles away with a long, flat on ramp. guess i will take it there and "wind it out."

first gear to 13,000rpm? second gear? i keep thinking if i go above 10K its gonna blow up!

but we will see
You don't have to open the throttle up all the way or you'll end up on
your back, you can accelerate very slowly and gently to those revs.

I'm just wondering if the revs will indicate after 13000 or will the bike
cut out before. If it does cut out before, your rev counter may be showing
wrong revs, or, (and not sure if this is possible), you got the 78hp version
of the bike that was also available here in EU.

In the transition from the S1 to S2, they kept the S1 for a year longer with
a power cap to 78hp, and that thing revved 2000 less then the full-on FZ6.

FYI, 1st gear on stock gearing will get you to around 60mph, 2nd to 90mph.
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Old 03-21-2014, 07:06 AM   #29
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To save money companies will use the same tach across multiple vehicles, and just replace the sticker with the redline. Same for speedos.
Changing the sticker dosen't change the range that the instrument measures. You're right about the saving money part, but the main reason for having more numbers than the instrument needs is marketing (accuracy is also a factor for analog instruments). Big numbers sell vehicles; "Lookit...that one can go eleventy-million miles an hour!"
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Changing the sticker dosen't change the range that the instrument measures. You're right about the saving money part, but the main reason for having more numbers than the instrument needs is marketing (accuracy is also a factor for analog instruments). Big numbers sell vehicles; "Lookit...that one can go eleventy-million miles an hour!"
I find that this was more of a case in the 80s and 90s, cars here in EU
usually had up to 30-40mph indicated more then they could reach, like
a 1993 Audi my family had which would do 140mph (GPS) and the
readout was all the way up to 180mph. Oh a 174hp car!

Today it's saving money.

First noticed it on my cousins ~2001 Renault Clio.
He got a diesel, but his rev counter was the same as petrol models,
and no red line indicated.

But in this FZ6 case, I don't think it's either, I think the bike was crashed
and this was bought because it was found cheaper, and the mounts fit.
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