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Old 03-29-2014, 09:03 AM   #61
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I can neither support nor argue with Unca Fud's advice. I can only tell you what I have installed my spacer with. My main motivation in using the rivets is to cut down on moving parts and keep "factory" look
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Old 03-29-2014, 10:40 AM   #62
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Just an antique engineer's fatigue opinion -

Rivets are not that necessary. They are very likely used on the OEM parts because they are cheaper and quicker to buy and install.

Use the 5 mm sockethead capscrews without any lockwashers or nylock nuts. Torque the bolts to yield & preferably use new ones every time. Preferably use good nuts with anti seize under the friction surface only.

This area runs warm so nylock nuts or locktite won't help. Don't use lockwashers in fatigue on general principle. Remember the U-joint experiences on airheads?

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And - include a spare bolt & nut for the user to learn how to break.......
Bolts sound like a better choice for me.

What does torque to yield mean?
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Old 03-29-2014, 01:39 PM   #63
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Agree on torqueing the bolts, but thread locker should help keep things tight. If it gets that hot, I may have bigger issues than to bolts loosening.

From Loctite's site:
Loctite® Threadlocker Red 271TM is designed for the permanent locking and sealing of threaded fasteners. The product cures when confined in the absence of air between close fitting metal surfaces. It protects threads from rust and corrosion and prevents loosening from shock and vibration. It is only removable once cured by heating up parts to 500°F (260°C).
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Old 03-29-2014, 02:49 PM   #64
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Me! I'm in. I'll bring the cash to your house. You gonna be around tomorrow? I may have just gotten freed up from work.
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Old 03-30-2014, 09:10 AM   #65
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Old 03-30-2014, 10:13 AM   #66
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Clutch Spacer

Payment & shipping info sent Esmir.

THANKS !!!

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Old 03-30-2014, 10:50 AM   #67
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First batch of 10 parts has been spoken for. If somebody changes their mind I will let you know
Hey Cele, I was in on page 2 post 20. Overlooked?
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Old 03-30-2014, 01:53 PM   #68
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First batch of 10 parts has been spoken for. If somebody changes their mind I will let you know
OK, put me down for one of the next 10.

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Old 03-30-2014, 02:20 PM   #69
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Hi Guys,

I went over to Esmir's house today. He's a smart, interesting guy with a lot of good ideas and some cool bikes in the garage. His pieces look very professional. I think this idea is a winner.

Nice meeting you Esmir. We'll chat again soon.
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Old 03-30-2014, 05:07 PM   #70
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I'm not sure I'm being very clear with this question, but not sure how to ask it any other way... Will the Balance be off if the holes are bigger on the stock parts with the spacer needing a .2mm smaller bolt? Can that .2mm allow the clutch to shift enough to make it off center and cause vibration? How would a person counter this if it is an issue. Does the alinement tool keep everything in line or will .2mm not be enough of an issue?

I'll shut up now...
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Old 03-31-2014, 02:37 AM   #71
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I'm not sure I'm being very clear with this question, but not sure how to ask it any other way... Will the Balance be off if the holes are bigger on the stock parts with the spacer needing a .2mm smaller bolt? Can that .2mm allow the clutch to shift enough to make it off center and cause vibration? How would a person counter this if it is an issue. Does the alinement tool keep everything in line or will .2mm not be enough of an issue?

I'll shut up now...
And this is what I have been thinking about last night and this morning.
Do I say "Its going to be OK" and go with the good enough method?
Bottom line is that the product is not what it should be. It should be 100% right or it shouldn't be out there.
So here is what I came up with as I was doing my morning routine.
I respectfully request one week extension in order to get with the machine shop owner and allow him to make it right. It is local and it is face to face so there shouldn't be a lot of back and forth.
To those that already paid, if this is not an acceptable delay, I will refund the payment plus any paypal fees you encountered, no questions asked. Please PM me.
Once again, I would rather fail because I was not able to do it then fail because my pride got the best of me.
Thank you
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Old 03-31-2014, 06:08 AM   #72
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Old 03-31-2014, 08:25 AM   #73
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Hi Esmir.

Regarding you not being 100 % happy with the hole size of the clutch spacer and requesting more time to get it right - I'm fully in favor of waiting for mine until you are confident of them being correct.

The phrase this reminds me of is this : " You want it fast or do you want it right ". Most times you don't get both.

I weeks delay is insignificant for a clutch repair on my 13 year old GS.

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Old 03-31-2014, 09:48 AM   #74
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It is not easy to run a project when R&D, supplier quality, customer service, PR, marketing, and warranty are all the same person. Lots of internal discussions going on.
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Old 03-31-2014, 01:55 PM   #75
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Ok so after a short talk and apology he is remaking 8 spacers starting tomorrow morning. I left a hub for him and m5 bolts as a go nogo tester.. So I have 2 spacers that are within specs. I would rather wait and ship them all at the same time unless there is somebody with a down bike that everybody would agree to cut in line.
Oh and the explanation was that the bit was dull and started to walk. I don't know I am not a machinist.
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