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Old 03-27-2014, 05:27 AM   #1
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Question Bushlander CTX200 tail light compliance oddity - DIY ADR?

Are there 2 versions of the ADR CTX200?
COMMON: Big tail light, and narrow indicators that are protected by the rack.
LESS COMMON: Low profile tail light, added rear reflector, and WIDE spaced indicators that stick out further than the rack.



I've just bought a used 2010 CTX200 that was previously road registered in NSW (I'm in VIC).

I've noticed that my tail light looks like it has been DIY installed (slightly crooked of course!) and the recess for the tail light has been enlarged with what looks like a kitchen knife, pretty poorly done.
I initially thought it might have been a dodgy DIY repair for a smashed tail light, but I've seen several CTX200s with exactly the same tail light and wide spaced indicators - all from various years, and in different states in AU.

Also, the head light switch is fixed in the ON position.
I pulled the headlight switch assembly apart and it was loctited ON, with a small plastic pin stopping the switch from turning off.

The headlights being loctited ON makes me think that it all might be an in house thing done by some dealers in AU to meet certain states' compliance?

Any ideas?

PS: This is my first bike. Don't even have my L's yet :) Just been riding it around the farm

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Old 03-27-2014, 05:35 AM   #2
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well done on your first bike...don't worry,one guy rode across OZ with a sidecar on his CTX.
Pretty sure there are two versions of CTX, ADR and Non ADR, maybe dealers made some extra bucks by buying non ADR and then "ADRing" in house?
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Old 03-27-2014, 05:46 AM   #3
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Many years I brought a WR200, that Yamaha dealers were selling in registered form.

These were brought into Australia and modified locally to meet ADR requirements, by Geoff Ballard I believe.

One the oddities was the headlight shroud being cut to accommodate a larger light.

This bike seems to be the same, including the loctiting of the headlight switch into the one position (which is an ADR requirement).
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maybe dealers made some extra bucks by buying non ADR and then "ADRing" in house?
Yeah, that's what I thought.
The tail light cut out looks like a rushed job.

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This bike seems to be the same, including the loctiting of the headlight switch into the one position (which is an ADR requirement).
I'm taking it in for a VIC Roadworthy next week, do I need to put the "always on" pin back the headlight switch assembly?
I'm guessing not.
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Old 03-27-2014, 05:59 AM   #5
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Pretty sure there are two versions of CTX, ADR and Non ADR, maybe dealers made some extra bucks by buying non ADR and then "ADRing" in house?
My husband and each have an ADR CTX200 - the badly fitted taillight, protruding indicators and the headlight that cannot be switched off are just some of the 'features' of the ADR model (along with rubber thingys on the sidestands and a heel guard near the chainguard).

Even with all the ADR stuff fitted a non-ADR CTX200 cannot ever legally be registered as it does not have a compliance plate and a VIN check would show that it never had one.

It is possible to purchase and fit a non-ADR rearguard and taillight to an ADR model and to re-mount the indicators so they are better protected but I don't know if it's possible to make the headlight switchable without buying a non-ADR switch.
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... just some of the 'features' of the ADR model (along with rubber thingys on the sidestands and a heel guard near the chainguard).
I'm sure I've seen the big tail light versions for sale as road reg'd ADR models.
What ARE those rubber thingys on the stands?

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I don't know if it's possible to make the headlight switchable without buying a non-ADR switch.
Mine was simply loctited ON, with a plastic pin stuck in the switch.
I removed the 2 screws on the cover, flipped it open, and prodded around with a tooth pick to loosen the loctite, then eventually found the plastic pin and removed it. Switch works perfectly now.
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As posted there are two versions of the CTX,the ADR and the non ADR models.

Stick with the CTX as long as you can, they can be a lot of cheap fun.

Here is a photo of a ride I did on mine.

Mt McCall.... Tasmania

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Honda still do 2 versions of this bike, a nonregisterable model, and for another thousand bucks an ADR registerable model.

I also believe that this is now the only registerable farm bike you can buy, the other major Japanese manufacturers only offer non-ADR models.

I was asking a salesman about these bikes, as I have always had a bit of an interest in these machines as a cheap and effective adventure mount, but if you can't register them they are useless to me, and the premium for the ADR-model just made them too expensive for my needs.
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Honda still do 2 versions of this bike, a nonregisterable model, and for another thousand bucks an ADR registerable model.

I also believe that this is now the only registerable farm bike you can buy, the other major Japanese manufacturers only offer non-ADR models.

I was asking a salesman about these bikes, as I have always had a bit of an interest in these machines as a cheap and effective adventure mount, but if you can't register them they are useless to me, and the premium for the ADR-model just made them too expensive for my needs.
If you look in clearing sales (on farm) you see them, secondhand buying better than new $$ wise
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The second pic is of my old CTX, I got it brand new, ADR compliant, 2012 model.
I could switch the headlight off if i wanted to from new as well.
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As posted there are two versions of the CTX,the ADR and the non ADR models.

Stick with the CTX as long as you can, they can be a lot of cheap fun.

Here is a photo of a ride I did on mine.

Mt McCall.... Tasmania

Ive had all 3 bikes in that picture, and only one of them is fun
CTX did 2 clutches and leaked oil from every gasket from new
Trojan leaked oil from new and caught fire from time to time
ttr/ legendary, sorry for the thread jack
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I could switch the headlight off if i wanted to from new as well.
Mine is a 2010, reg'd in NSW.
Did NSW briefly have a regulation that all new bikes had to have a headlight fixed to ON?
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Ive had all 3 bikes in that picture, and only one of them is fun
CTX did 2 clutches and leaked oil from every gasket from new
Trojan leaked oil from new and caught fire from time to time
ttr/ legendary, sorry for the thread jack

You must be hard on farm bikes, had no trouble at all.
I didn't show it any mercy.
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You must be hard on farm bikes,
It's the photos of the hairy buttocks that finishes them off y'know.........
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Are there 2 versions of the ADR CTX200?
COMMON: Big tail light, and narrow indicators that are protected by the rack.
LESS COMMON: Low profile tail light, added rear reflector, and WIDE spaced indicators that stick out further than the rack.



I've just bought a used 2010 CTX200 that was previously road registered in NSW (I'm in VIC).

I've noticed that my tail light looks like it has been DIY installed (slightly crooked of course!) and the recess for the tail light has been enlarged with what looks like a kitchen knife, pretty poorly done.
I initially thought it might have been a dodgy DIY repair for a smashed tail light, but I've seen several CTX200s with exactly the same tail light and wide spaced indicators - all from various years, and in different states in AU.

Also, the head light switch is fixed in the ON position.
I pulled the headlight switch assembly apart and it was loctited ON, with a small plastic pin stopping the switch from turning off.

The headlights being loctited ON makes me think that it all might be an in house thing done by some dealers in AU to meet certain states' compliance?

Any ideas?

PS: This is my first bike. Don't even have my L's yet :) Just been riding it around the farm
Ok the narrow indicators that fit under the rear rack were only fitted to non ADR bikes and the tail light that is fitted to the same bike is also the non ADR type. But I don't think this have changed over the years. There is also a heap of small over changes made to the bike to meet ADR requirements.

ADR conversion is done in Melbourne.

If you send me a private message with the frame number I can check to see if is a legit ADR version come Monday morning.
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