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Old 04-03-2014, 02:48 PM   #76
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Tankbags are handy as a pocket on a shirt!

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Old 04-04-2014, 05:41 AM   #77
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It was like 40° or less and pouring.
I kept having to crack it to not fog it up. I should have found one like my clear one. Lol I don't have a tankbag...yet! :( backpacks aren't that fun either.


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if you get a anti fog insert then it will stop your visor misting up clear or dark.

tank bag are good you can get a lot in one or you can just carry your lunch if you ride to work lol.
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Old 04-04-2014, 10:37 AM   #78
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I have to have more than my lunch lol, I rode to work today and at a red light some redneck in an old trashy ford truck kept creeping closer to the back of my bike all while laughing to himself..it was creepy. He got a bit too close for comfort. Anyhoo, it's supposed to rain my whole drive home! Luckily I have my clear visor that is anti fog. :

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Okay, it looks like your situational awareness is developing nicely. It looks like you've already figured out that you need to watch for the creepazoids. There seem to be a number of people who really enjoy trying to scare motorcyclists, and I can only assume their motivation is to get one to make a critical mistake and get into a wreck (while not being involved themselves). I've had my encounters with them as well. There's a guy who lives not far from me that I'm going to have to chat with when I find out where he lives; but he only screws around with me when I'm on my red bike. The closest call I had involved a very old woman who got within inches of hitting me: She was looking at me and laughing like hell that I nearly dumped my bike on the shoulder trying to get out of her way. If my skills had been better at the time, I could easily have gotten away from her, so in the post-mortem I noted that I needed

  • To be constantly selecting new escape routes.
  • To work on maintaining ability to corner while feeling the pegs and exhaust grind (just don't want the rider grinding).
  • To learn to brake more effectively (and this includes knowing when to get off the brakes)

Maintaining control of your ride is all about keeping your option open. When you are out of options, you are now being controlled.
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Old 04-04-2014, 03:34 PM   #79
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Okay, it looks like your situational awareness is developing nicely. It looks like you've already figured out that you need to watch for the creepazoids. There seem to be a number of people who really enjoy trying to scare motorcyclists, and I can only assume their motivation is to get one to make a critical mistake and get into a wreck (while not being involved themselves). I've had my encounters with them as well. There's a guy who lives not far from me that I'm going to have to chat with when I find out where he lives; but he only screws around with me when I'm on my red bike. The closest call I had involved a very old woman who got within inches of hitting me: She was looking at me and laughing like hell that I nearly dumped my bike on the shoulder trying to get out of her way. If my skills had been better at the time, I could easily have gotten away from her, so in the post-mortem I noted that I needed

  • To be constantly selecting new escape routes.
  • To work on maintaining ability to corner while feeling the pegs and exhaust grind (just don't want the rider grinding).
  • To learn to brake more effectively (and this includes knowing when to get off the brakes)

Maintaining control of your ride is all about keeping your option open. When you are out of options, you are now being controlled.
Yeah, like on my way home, I passed a school, some dumb young chick on a cell phone in a grey Taurus decided to pull out in front of me (crossing the lane) and make a dead brake slammed stop with the cop already having told her not to go. I noticed her wheels moving, the fact she didn't look my direction once and that she was on a cell, while paying attention to the way the cars tires were facing in the other lane. It really bugs me when people play on their phone while driving and such. Be smart and considerate of other peoples LIVES. k thanks. Rant over. ;)

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Old 04-04-2014, 03:50 PM   #80
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Yeah, like on my way home, I passed a school, some dumb young chick on a cell phone in a grey Taurus decided to pull out in front of me (crossing the lane) and make a dead brake slammed stop with the cop already having told her not to go. I noticed her wheels moving, the fact she didn't look my direction once and that she was on a cell, while paying attention to the way the cars tires were facing in the other lane. It really bugs me when people play on their phone while driving and such. Be smart and considerate of other peoples LIVES. k thanks. Rant over. ;)

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Being on the bike saved my bacon with a similar driver. Likewise, young girl driver, in this case texting. She ran a stop sign from a side street, made a wiiiiiiiide right turn, and accelerated right for me, completely in my lane. I decided to get as far right as I could (tires hitting dirt) instead of swerving into the left lane in case she got back into her lane. She didn't but another car pulled out behind her from another side street, so she was still all the way in my lane when we passed. We were so close I could see the Nokia logo on her phone, and she never once looked up until she got another 100 yards down the road.

Now, bad as that sounds on a bike, can you imagine getting out of that one without being hurt or killed in a cage?
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Old 04-04-2014, 03:55 PM   #81
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It really bugs me when people play on their phone while driving and such. Be smart and considerate of other peoples LIVES.
I don't see much hope for improvement. Too many societal pressures for staying connected all the time. And that gets to one of the major reasons I commute: It gives me 60-90 minutes a day nobody can call me on the phone to drag me into a meeting. I've got better things to think about than work during that time, e.g. what it takes to stay alive and intact from one moment to the next. It is strangely relaxing.
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Old 04-04-2014, 08:49 PM   #82
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Have you looked into some side cases for your bike? Givi E21s are not terribly expensive, hold a useful amount of gear, are waterproof and lockable, detach from the bike so you can carry them inside without having to unload them at the bike, and do not stick so far out from the bike as to make the bike cumbersome.

Personally, I have a top case for mine (for my gargantuan laptop). I used to wear a backpack but it caused a lot of fatigue, and some of the comments I found on-line from orthopedic surgeons describing injuries resulting from wearing backpack turned me off from it. The problem with the top case is that it makes getting on and off the bike a bit clumsy the way I have mine mounted and has a nice sail effect to catch crosswinds. On a recent commute home, winds were gusting to 40 mph, making the back end of my bike dance a little. (At least it wasn't twerking. )

Side cases do not affect the stability as much top cases since they tend to be well within the load triangle and do not increase the profile of the bike. They can also help prevent damage to the bike in the event of a tip-over. Not sure what you're riding, but I can assure you that you will not find factory new plastic for the price of a replacement E21.
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Old 04-04-2014, 09:23 PM   #83
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I had a motor cycle license before I had a car license, so I have always commuted!

First bike was a 1969 CL175 in 1977 and I rode to high school.
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Old 04-04-2014, 09:42 PM   #84
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I had a motor cycle license before I had a car license, so I have always commuted!

First bike was a 1969 CL175 in 1977 and I rode to high school.
No doubt that the earlier you start riding the faster it is to pick up (my dad sold his Kz400 for the express purposes of keeping me from riding it), but how does your commute to your real job now compare with your "commute" to high school and your after-school job?

I think the real question the OP is asking is when do you know you're ready to jump out there and compete for road space with a gaggle of idiots, spazzes, and sociopaths on a daily basis? A lot of that has to do with where you ride and what you're riding, e.g. if you're struggling to turn out from the neighborhood without launching yourself into the trees on the other side of the road, you might want to work on throttle and clutch technique so you don't have surprises at an an intersection and -- maybe more importantly -- you can spend your finite attention span tracking what is going on around you at the intersection instead of being absorbed in the details of getting the bike rolling/stopped.
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Old 04-04-2014, 10:07 PM   #85
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This is the beginning of my fifth season. 27, no kids, and my girl likes to go for long rides on my days off. I think I'm just now getting a little tired of commuting. I work as a cook so finding a place to keep my gear, plus the time spent taking it on and off, has really become a hassle (I wear more/better gear than I did for the past seasons). Where I'm working now is about 8 miles from home so I'm not sure (and not too worried about it either) if I'll see it as worth the time/effort to commute every day I work via bike April-October. I have later in times then I'm used to. I'm already enjoying having a nice ride before work, then leaving the house via car, post shower,to fight off the crazy route I have to take in to work during rush hour all the while puffing down cigs. If I lived further away I wouldn't drive most days. I'm not used to it, I'm not sure what I'll do, all I know is I'm enjoying riding in heavy traffic less and less.

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Old 04-05-2014, 02:50 PM   #86
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0 min and 0 seconds. The moment I picked up my motorcycle I rode it to work. Commuted with it for two years before picking up my first car. Still commute with the bike every day (minus the snow and ice days).
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Old 04-05-2014, 07:53 PM   #87
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No doubt that the earlier you start riding the faster it is to pick up (my dad sold his Kz400 for the express purposes of keeping me from riding it), but how does your commute to your real job now compare with your "commute" to high school and your after-school job?

I think the real question the OP is asking is when do you know you're ready to jump out there and compete for road space with a gaggle of idiots, spazzes, and sociopaths on a daily basis? A lot of that has to do with where you ride and what you're riding, e.g. if you're struggling to turn out from the neighborhood without launching yourself into the trees on the other side of the road, you might want to work on throttle and clutch technique so you don't have surprises at an an intersection and -- maybe more importantly -- you can spend your finite attention span tracking what is going on around you at the intersection instead of being absorbed in the details of getting the bike rolling/stopped.
A lot different. Two miles of surface street v.s. 24 miles of So Cal freeway.

I realize I was not on the same topic. His real question is "when is a new rider to ready to mix it up with real traffic?"

Emergency stops, and direction changes need to be second nature.
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Old 04-06-2014, 06:12 PM   #88
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A lot different. Two miles of surface street v.s. 24 miles of So Cal freeway.

I realize I was not on the same topic. His real question is "when is a new rider to ready to mix it up with real traffic?"

Emergency stops, and direction changes need to be second nature.
I agree with this, had my first emergency stop since msf 3/16 and I must say, I was shocked in a good way that I remembered what to do. Other people are dangerous and since msf, I've made sure to look twice, even 3 times in a car. I don't want to be another idiot. It paying attention. I do think that the majority of idiotic drivers are irresponsible teens or unsure elderly people. I also agree there is a BIG difference in surface riding and pretty much any CA traffic. That is a whole new level of idiot. (No offense to you CA people!) But I was basically having to watch myself on a mountain bike IN THE BIKE LANE, because these people would drive in the bike lane! Crazy stuff! Anyhoo today was a fun day, left around 10 something and didn't make it back home until around 4:30 visiting overly worried family via bike and taking a few (awkward) photos. Good day though! Must say my tourmaster boots are grand!

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Old 04-06-2014, 07:31 PM   #89
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