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Old 03-31-2014, 03:10 PM   #1
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Can't judget a book by it's cover - 1965 BMW R27

As we were told, you can't judge a book by it's cover. This is one of the best examples.


Found this non-running for at least 25 years R27 at a friend's basement's extension's extension's extension. He said that's the best way to gain more space without paying taxed... ;-) The funny part was he was almost forgot he has this bike sitting there.







After two phone calls, deal was made, and pick-up date was set.









It was sitting on a block right next to the furnace. The dust was covered the whole bike which is kind of helping preventing rusty. It looks like everything is there and all it takes just few parts and a nice bath.










I was very pleased and happy about how much I paid and what I got after I got home and had chance to take a deeper looking at her.


















After some light cleaning, and replaced some parts, she started at first or second kick (even when it's only 32F out).









It was super cold, but a test ride was a must !! .























However, the best part is just began.
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Old 03-31-2014, 03:14 PM   #2
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Old 03-31-2014, 03:22 PM   #3
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Score!

That's what I thought. It has everything, runs, stops, and looks pretty nice 5 feet away.
Whatelse can I ask more for a 50 years old single?

Well, it comes out more than that

The engine was kind of loud, and the first run of engine oil was super dirty. Well, after sitting for 20+ years, I assume that's "normal".

After the second run of the engine oil change, the oil did NOT clear as it should be. The engine started making more noises especially when clutch was pulled.


uh.................


Time for digging into more .....


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Old 03-31-2014, 03:36 PM   #4
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It didn't take too long to have the engine off the frame.









Took the engine to somewhere has better tools and knowledge for some "investigation".
















And this is what we found .............

































































For some reasons, moisture/water went INSIDE the block. ... Everything was shot !!














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Old 03-31-2014, 03:39 PM   #5
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I think you need to get to know Renner, soon......Whatever you end up having to do , it WILL be worth it, I hope you know that....

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Old 03-31-2014, 04:43 PM   #6
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Old 03-31-2014, 05:15 PM   #7
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I think you need to get to know Renner, soon......Whatever you end up having to do , it WILL be worth it, I hope you know that....


I had reached out to few mates here ( missed out Renner tho), talked to few airheads on the phone and in person regarding this issue. They all gave me different suggestions, and all are great.




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One of our mates pointed out that I crossed the line while ago while we are on the slinger talks. I am truly apology if I offended anybody. I was trying to make a joke of myself my borrowing time on my /2. Never thought I will have to dig that deep this soon.

Back on the single.



I had been thinking. Should I just ship the block out and have "professional" done, and call it off the day? Or, buy the tools, and do it myself.


Well, I was looking for a "project", and isn't this what I was looking for?
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Old 03-31-2014, 05:31 PM   #8
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With the mind set, used some home made special tools took the crankshaft off the block.


















While searching for used parts and tools, the parts got some serious examed and cleaned.

Most of parts show the ages, but still all usable.


























Got this used crankshaft off ebay after few emails with the seller. For that price, I took the chances. The item turns out as he describer.




Even the slinger is clean








I-tools arrived today, BIG thanks to " Detroit Steve "

Now, I am waiting the package from Meyer.


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Old 03-31-2014, 06:32 PM   #9
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Wow!

Nice progress!
How'd you drag the crank outta there?
Congrats on the AllInOne.
This is what I ended up making for pushin' and pulling.
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Old 03-31-2014, 07:13 PM   #10
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was looking good for a few pages ...

if you have a minute .. look through some old airhead tools I'm trying to identify
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=927566
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Old 03-31-2014, 07:27 PM   #11
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I don't know how to really truly convey this, but.... these bikes are getting more and more rare by the day... ANY thing that you can do to save/salvage or make useable, will, by the day, become more "unobtanium"....

I had a gorgeous 50/2 in incredible condition that I had to sell because of $$ constraints back when the financial world imploded. I could never replace that bike for what I sold it for.... Do be conscious of the rarity and special nature of what you have.

Pitted parts are still parts, original, perhaps useable. Don't under-estimate what they are!!

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Old 04-01-2014, 03:00 AM   #12
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Found this non-running for at least 25 years R27 at a friend's basement's extension's extension's extension. He said that's the best way to gain more space without paying taxed... ;-) The funny part was he was almost forgot he has this bike sitting there.


After some light cleaning, and replaced some parts, she started at first or second kick (even when it's only 32F out).
what precautions did you take before starting a motor that's been sitting for 25+ years?

did you squirt a few oz top cylinder lube like marvel mystery oil down spark plug hole?
did you drop the pan to make sure everything is OK before starting?

besides cleaning out fuel tank/carbs .. above are the two steps I took before starting 74 R90S that had been sitting 25+ years in an unheated storage shed. as a further precaution tranny and final drive fluids were changed before test ride.

picture seems to show bearing getting surrounding area hot enough to change color

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Old 04-01-2014, 04:38 AM   #13
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After some light cleaning, and replaced some parts, she started at first or second kick (even when it's only 32F out).


It was super cold, but a test ride was a must !! .
What I find amazing and a testament to these bikes is that even in the shape you ultimately discovered it to be in - it actually started and took you for a little ride - in 32 degrees no less!
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Old 04-01-2014, 05:10 AM   #14
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After some light cleaning, and replaced some parts, she started at first or second kick (even when it's only 32F out).
Classic

Great news that you're writing new chapters of this bike's book.

curious what year / what final drive ratio
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Old 04-04-2014, 08:12 PM   #15
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Classic

Great news that you're writing new chapters of this bike's book.

curious what year / what final drive ratio
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Nice progress!
How'd you drag the crank outta there?
Congrats on the AllInOne.
This is what I ended up making for pushin' and pulling.


We used some generic pullers, and it did the job pretty well.

And HEAT helped a lot.














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I don't know how to really truly convey this, but.... these bikes are getting more and more rare by the day... ANY thing that you can do to save/salvage or make useable, will, by the day, become more "unobtanium"....

I had a gorgeous 50/2 in incredible condition that I had to sell because of $$ constraints back when the financial world imploded. I could never replace that bike for what I sold it for.... Do be conscious of the rarity and special nature of what you have.

Pitted parts are still parts, original, perhaps useable. Don't under-estimate what they are!!


YES and YES!

Personally, I like everything to be original. It is only original once.
I usually try to use whatever comes with the bike"s". Even went on ebay hunting the same year parts something to make the bike looks "original".



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