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Old 04-04-2014, 04:14 AM   #16
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Thanks, O-cicle.
You know, if the winters weren't so long here, all of my bikes would be a lot closer to stock.
8 more inches overnight! What's next?
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Old 04-04-2014, 05:16 AM   #17
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Thanks, O-cicle.
You know, if the winters weren't so long here, all of my bikes would be a lot closer to stock.
8 more inches overnight! What's next?
Man, thank goodness my garage isn't heated. Otherwise, I'd be bankrupt.
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Old 04-04-2014, 05:44 AM   #18
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Does it get hot? I've thought about doing that, but seem to remember hearing something about it being too hot close to the exhaust.

I was considering running a couple of leads up there from the stock position, because jumping (it or others) is a pita, but that looks a much nicer solution. I'll move the tyre pump that's in there now down to the battery box, although that probably means a flat first time out
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Old 04-04-2014, 06:46 AM   #19
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They were wrong.
The bike handled sluggishly, resisted quick transitions, and pushed the front end badly into corners.
They learned that when the rider counter-steers the bars, and we feel the bike leaning over, what actually is happening is we are steering the wheels out from underneath the bike. The heavy fuel tank was resisting this process, and turned sluggishly. Under braking, without the weight of the fuel above the engine, not enough weight transferred to the front wheel, and it pushed wide through the corner.

Well, anyway, I'm having a blast with the way it makes the bike feel, and I would recommend this mod to anyone who pushes their bike hard.
When you look at the Honda you can visualize why the transitions felt heavy. When the front wheel is turned the lower part of the motorcycle moves out from under the upper part. The less massive the lower is the lighter it would feel. With the mass of the fuel tank low it would feel massive to steer.

I wonder what those expansion chambers felt like right under you face?
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Old 04-04-2014, 07:18 AM   #20
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I haven't seen any heat related issues,but it's pretty cool around here right now.
I think going to the 2 into 1 exhaust helps a lot, since you eliminate the left side header pipe that runs right under the box.


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Does it get hot? I've thought about doing that, but seem to remember hearing something about it being too hot close to the exhaust.

I was considering running a couple of leads up there from the stock position, because jumping (it or others) is a pita, but that looks a much nicer solution. I'll move the tyre pump that's in there now down to the battery box, although that probably means a flat first time out
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Old 04-04-2014, 07:21 AM   #21
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No kidding!
Even though there was an insulated shell above the pipes, by the end of a race it must have been pretty toasty.




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When you look at the Honda you can visualize why the transitions felt heavy. When the front wheel is turned the lower part of the motorcycle moves out from under the upper part. The less massive the lower is the lighter it would feel. With the mass of the fuel tank low it would feel massive to steer.

I wonder what those expansion chambers felt like right under you face?
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Old 04-04-2014, 04:56 PM   #22
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I thought it's a good thing that battery is so low. May be this is only true for off road riding?
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Old 04-05-2014, 02:05 AM   #23
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I thought it's a good thing that battery is so low. May be this is only true for off road riding?
If that were the case all dirt bikes would have a battery mounted down there.
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Old 04-05-2014, 05:07 AM   #24
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Good for stability, bad for lifting the front wheel!

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Old 04-05-2014, 06:28 AM   #25
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Does it get hot? I've thought about doing that, but seem to remember hearing something about it being too hot close to the exhaust.

I was considering running a couple of leads up there from the stock position, because jumping (it or others) is a pita, but that looks a much nicer solution. I'll move the tyre pump that's in there now down to the battery box, although that probably means a flat first time out
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I haven't seen any heat related issues,but it's pretty cool around here right now.
I think going to the 2 into 1 exhaust helps a lot, since you eliminate the left side header pipe that runs right under the box.

The Super Enduro has the battery in that exact spot..... heat is not an issue.
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Old 04-06-2014, 08:03 AM   #26
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Thanks, O-cicle.
You know, if the winters weren't so long here, all of my bikes would be a lot closer to stock.
8 more inches overnight! What's next?
Dude so sorry to hear that. In Florida, I have upgrades to do but its the perfect weather right now so I just have to ride it!! Just coming out of the no humidity, cool mornings weather pattern. Now in the high 80s. Humidity and heat on its way in about two weeks. In the dead of summer July-Sept the garage is just too hot to work in. Anything rubber or plastic drys out and dry rots. Tires, tubes, Boot Soles delaminate (just had my soles reattached to my Combat Boots), its just a whole other dimension, however the riding season is quite long!
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Old 04-06-2014, 10:18 AM   #27
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Does it get hot? I've thought about doing that, but seem to remember hearing something about it being too hot close to the exhaust.
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I don't know whether the heat would be enough to damage a battery, but the tool bin definitely does get hot. I had been carrying a small multimeter in the bottom of mine, and it ended up looking like this:



I still carry one, but in the upper part of the bin, and it seems to be doing fine.

Maybe some insulation under the battery would be a good idea?
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Old 04-06-2014, 03:59 PM   #28
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Dude so sorry to hear that. In Florida, I have upgrades to do but its the perfect weather right now so I just have to ride it!! Just coming out of the no humidity, cool mornings weather pattern. Now in the high 80s. Humidity and heat on its way in about two weeks. In the dead of summer July-Sept the garage is just too hot to work in. Anything rubber or plastic drys out and dry rots. Tires, tubes, Boot Soles delaminate (just had my soles reattached to my Combat Boots), its just a whole other dimension, however the riding season is quite long!
Don't feel too bad for us up here. It was 60 today, and the snow is off the paved and gravel roads.
I put on 250 miles today, about 70% off-pavement. Sweet.

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I don't know whether the heat would be enough to damage a battery, but the tool bin definitely does get hot. I had been carrying a small multimeter in the bottom of mine, and it ended up looking like this:



I still carry one, but in the upper part of the bin, and it seems to be doing fine.

Maybe some insulation under the battery would be a good idea?
Wow, that got pretty hot.
Do you have 2 mufflers or a 2-1 setup?
My battery sits about an inch off the bottom of the floor of the bin, so that should help. I won't know until it gets warm up here.
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Old 04-06-2014, 04:06 PM   #29
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Wow, that got pretty hot.
Do you have 2 mufflers or a 2-1 setup?
My battery sits about an inch off the bottom of the floor of the bin, so that should help. I won't know until it gets warm up here.
Stock 2 can setup.

An inch clearance likely would make a considerable difference.
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Old 04-08-2014, 03:11 AM   #30
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Doesn't it come with insulation stock? Yours may have fallen.

I've had good results with Moss racing insulation. I put it on the inside of my tanks and a few other places. I even covered coolant the pipe that goes into the water pump. It passes an inch away from the front header. Great adhesive. Been there for three years.
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