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Old 04-08-2014, 11:01 AM   #31
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Ahh..Def, price what it costs to rebuild that starter using OEM parts and get back with me. Those that want to enjoy the mechanical satisfaction of repairing a starter, enjoy. I ride my bike everyday and the ability to buy a cheap replacement that bolted right in and continues to work years later makes sense for me.
Once you deduct the removal and refitting time (which you would spend with a new starter anway), the process of taking a starter apart, degreasing and relubing it is about 15 to 20 minutes. And you saved $200.00 by doing some basic maintenance...
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Old 04-08-2014, 11:11 AM   #32
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Ahh..Def, price what it costs to rebuild that starter using OEM parts and get back with me. Those that want to enjoy the mechanical satisfaction of repairing a starter, enjoy. I ride my bike everyday and the ability to buy a cheap replacement that bolted right in and continues to work years later makes sense for me.
Thats good to know that they can be bought so cheaply, and that you have gotten great service life out of it.

But from another perspective, I ride mine daily too, and sometimes I ride it to places that do not stock starters, cheap , expensive or otherwise, so I am glad to know what it takes to open the starter, clean it and make it work.
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Old 04-08-2014, 06:18 PM   #33
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Ahh..Def, price what it costs to rebuild that starter using OEM parts and get back with me. Those that want to enjoy the mechanical satisfaction of repairing a starter, enjoy. I ride my bike everyday and the ability to buy a cheap replacement that bolted right in and continues to work years later makes sense for me.
A rebuild on the OE starter is difficult to judge unless we know the failure.

Tbone, I fully understand your situation and applaud your decision to replace rather than rebuild.

Finally, a carefully cleaned and repaired OE starter may be more reliable than the original.
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Old 04-08-2014, 06:25 PM   #34
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Ah, ah, ah. Did I mention that this thread is about fixing and maintaining a starter? It will probably interest a few people who think it is difficult and who like doing stuff themselve. And if my starter fails 3 days away from home, I'll be glad I now know how to fix it in a rest area... ;-)
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Old 04-08-2014, 07:48 PM   #35
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price what it costs to rebuild that starter using OEM parts and get back with me. .
Actually Euromotoelectrics carries a lot of Valeo (OEM) parts reasonably priced.
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Old 04-08-2014, 08:12 PM   #36
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Yep

magnets broke on mine, I think from hitting a huge culvert on a dirt road, or from my buddy beating on it, after it killed the battery. I will never know

new housing was about $40, been good since.


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Old 04-09-2014, 04:37 AM   #37
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So speaking of maintaining the OEM starter, what's the recommended lube to use after I take it apart and remove the grime?
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So speaking of maintaining the OEM starter, what's the recommended lube to use after I take it apart and remove the grime?
I will let other peoples chime in from their own experience. I elected to use a engine/tranny oil over grease. Grease will work in warmer areas but might be too thick in freezing temps... I don't hold the truth, so everyone's free to experiment and share.
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Old 04-09-2014, 06:39 AM   #39
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I used a very small amount of synthetic disc brake grease, very goey and high temp capable stuff.

I would imagine anything thicker than 3n1 oil would be fine though, as long as its clean.
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Old 04-09-2014, 03:32 PM   #40
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The spinning without engaging is usually the failure of the one way roller clutch in the starter drive.

You can buy them

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So looking at Anton's page it would be #3 ?

http://www.largiader.com/tech/valeo/

I don't want to go tearing into my starter just yet, but replacing this piece would do the trick?

http://www.euromotoelectrics.com/VAL...a-oildrive.htm
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Old 04-09-2014, 04:04 PM   #41
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So looking at Anton's page it would be #3 ?

http://www.largiader.com/tech/valeo/

I don't want to go tearing into my starter just yet, but replacing this piece would do the trick?

http://www.euromotoelectrics.com/VAL...a-oildrive.htm
In my case it was a simple case of cleaning the old gunk and properly lubing the moving parts. Cost was 0 except for a few squirts of WD40 to remove grease, and some tranny oil (1/4 tea spoon).
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Old 04-09-2014, 08:18 PM   #42
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So looking at Anton's page it would be #3 ?

http://www.largiader.com/tech/valeo/

I don't want to go tearing into my starter just yet, but replacing this piece would do the trick?

http://www.euromotoelectrics.com/VAL...a-oildrive.htm
Correct. You might try soaking that piece in solvent to free it up. It is likely that clutch dust has fouled it.
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Old 04-10-2014, 03:57 AM   #43
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So speaking of maintaining the OEM starter, what's the recommended lube to use after I take it apart and remove the grime?
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I will let other peoples chime in from their own experience. I elected to use a engine/tranny oil over grease. Grease will work in warmer areas but might be too thick in freezing temps... I don't hold the truth, so everyone's free to experiment and share.
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It is likely that clutch dust has fouled it.
Next time try spray on graphite lube. Goes on wet but dries to a thin film. Doesn't attract dust and is not affected by the cold. Used to use it after stripping oil from rifles and lube them with graphite spray before use in the artic to prevent freeze up..
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Old 07-22-2014, 01:57 PM   #44
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cracked magnets in Valeo starter

Just pulled my starter to clean and lube. I found one magnet with a long crack running the length of it and one with a significant piece of one end missing. what can be done from here? Can new magnets be installed or do I need to buy new?
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Old 07-22-2014, 01:59 PM   #45
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You need this if you have broken magnets

http://www.euromotoelectrics.com/pro...6ra-magccw.htm
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