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Old 04-01-2014, 02:51 PM   #1
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Honda HP4 10/W/40 semi-synthetic oil

Where do buy yours and how much? Thanks
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Old 04-01-2014, 07:23 PM   #2
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Where do buy yours and how much? Thanks
Apex Motorsports has it in the Springs.
By the quart or Gallon I'm pretty sure.
Might be cheaper online, not sure.
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:27 PM   #3
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Save your money...

After doing about 100 solid hours of research and actually talking to the chemist who created it, I switched to Rotella T6 for everything I own. It is the best oil you can get for the price and its available everywhere. I looked at several hundred wear reports and some in depth analysis and its the best by far.

If you ever have an oil related failure you can send the parts to Shell for analysis and get reimbursed.

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Old 04-03-2014, 12:11 PM   #4
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When I bought my FZ1, it had Amsoil in it and ran fantastic-I shied away from the price.

I read good things about the Rotella T & since a bunch of FZ1 forum members liked it well in their bikes, decided to try it. As long as it's cool, it runs fine, but on hot days (85+), it shifts horrible. Mis-shifts/won't go into gear, klunks...just bad. It might work well in some bikes, but mine sure doesn't like it.

aceonthebeach3 is offering a great discount on Amsoil to inmates in the Vendor Forum, I'm going to take him up on his discount and going back to Amsoil, about to put in an order.
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Old 04-03-2014, 12:17 PM   #5
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Old 04-03-2014, 12:26 PM   #6
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Are there multiple ratings for the T6? (5w 50, 15w 30, etc) - or is T6 just one rating? I have also heard this is the oil to buy - just want to know which viscosity.

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After doing about 100 solid hours of research and actually talking to the chemist who created it, I switched to Rotella T6 for everything I own. It is the best oil you can get for the price and its available everywhere. I looked at several hundred wear reports and some in depth analysis and its the best by far.

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Old 04-03-2014, 12:40 PM   #7
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After doing about 100 solid hours of research and actually talking to the chemist who created it, I switched to Rotella T6 for everything I own. It is the best oil you can get for the price and its available everywhere. I looked at several hundred wear reports and some in depth analysis and its the best by far.

If you ever have an oil related failure you can send the parts to Shell for analysis and get reimbursed.

Current certifications:

API CJ-4, CI-4 PLUS, CI-4, CH-4, SM, SL, SH; ACEA E9; Caterpillar
ECF-3, ECF-2; Cummins CES 20081; DDC 93K218; Ford WSS
M2C171-E; JASO DH-2, MA; Mack EO-O Premium Plus; MB Approval
228.31; Volvo VDS-4
Is T6 semi-synthetic? No problem finding neutral when hot now and shifts much smoother. I'm a fan.
Will check out the above, thanks.
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Old 04-03-2014, 12:54 PM   #8
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T6 I believe is 5-40 full synthetic, not sure if it comes in other weights. A gallon runs about $22 on sale.
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Old 04-03-2014, 12:57 PM   #9
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Sticking with semi, don't want any clutch slippage.
Not going to change to save $15.00. Thanks
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Old 04-03-2014, 01:05 PM   #10
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Sticking with semi, don't want any clutch slippage.
Not going to change to save $15.00. Thanks
Yep. I'm gonna quit messing around trying to find something cheaper that works well when I know it ran smooth as silk on the Amsoil. Lesson learned, that's a pesky battle not worth fighting over a few bucks more.
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Old 04-03-2014, 01:15 PM   #11
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Rotella T-6 is 5w-40 and only 5w-40.

50K miles or so on the XR650R and when I just did the top end the cross hatching was still fine, very little wear to piston skirt. Yep, this is the oil I use on the XR650R. Been using Amsoil for the GasGas EC300 as it comes in higher rates.

In my past vehicles I have also used Rotella. Mainly used Rotella on the FZ1 too when I had that.

It's good stuff, I would use it on my Jeep Grand Cherokee but the Hemi is picky on oil type and the displacement on demand working correctly.
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Old 04-08-2014, 09:44 PM   #12
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Ordered a case of 12 quarts 10w40 Amsoil from Adam linky on the 3rd, $118 with shipping & tax, delivered to my door today. Talk about fast and convenient service, hard to beat that!
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Old 04-09-2014, 11:34 PM   #13
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After doing about 100 solid hours of research and actually talking to the chemist who created it, I switched to Rotella T6 for everything I own.
Bah.. T6 is still for suckers. Plain ole' Rotella T for everything.

Dirtbikes come no where near producing the sheer forces for the extra goody of the T6 to matter, and no one should be running dirtbike oil long enough for the extended benefits of synth. Both are JASO MA.

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Old 04-10-2014, 06:35 AM   #14
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when given the choice I treat my bike to Motorex, but I have been known to run Valvoline for an abusive 500 miles after my bike lost its drain bolt in Lake George...
Isn't Rotella just for farm equipment? I can see using it in something like an XR because that is tractor like...
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Old 04-10-2014, 07:51 AM   #15
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well....as long as this is looking like an oil thread

to the OP, it's not synthetic that makes clutches slip - it's moly.
you can use a full synth without moly if you're worried about your clutch.


that being said, I have NEVER had a clutch slipping issue on any wet clutch bike I've had (a sizable number), and I've used virtually every brand of fully synthetic oil made.... ester based, whatever. Never.
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