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Old 06-23-2014, 12:37 PM   #196
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I mounted the seat cooler up and love the look and how it works, but I am in agreement, they have made offroad standing up almost impossible for me...the ridge that runs along the middle of it hits the side of my calf and causes significant pain, after a 1/4 mile of fairly rough offroad I was unable to continue standing (I had bruises when I got home)...I don't know that I will be able to keep these installed, I might have to just deal with the heat

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I have them mounted flush with the frame as you mentioned. "Stick out" maybe to extreme for description, but they do "protrude" where calf area does hit while on pegs, at least for me. (not bow-legged)
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Old 06-23-2014, 01:09 PM   #197
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Big Fan!

Ordered mine on a Tuesday and got them on Friday...FROM SLOVENIA! (How is it UPS international can deliver a package around the world in 2 days but i order a box from Cali and it takes 5 days to Seattle?)

I got the matte finish, they mounted up quickly, even with my bear paws. Between the wings and the extra heat shield my heat issues have been resolved. This ride is also my daily commuter and it was getting toasty before, no more.
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Old 06-23-2014, 02:34 PM   #198
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Ordered mine today, matt black as well.
Will see how much time it takes to arrive.

My ride this w. e. convinced me it was needed
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Old 06-29-2014, 09:47 AM   #199
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I mounted the seat cooler up and love the look and how it works, but I am in agreement, they have made offroad standing up almost impossible for me...the ridge that runs along the middle of it hits the side of my calf and causes significant pain, after a 1/4 mile of fairly rough offroad I was unable to continue standing (I had bruises when I got home)...I don't know that I will be able to keep these installed, I might have to just deal with the heat

Anyone have a top view photo of these installed vs. uninstalled? I like the idea, don't like the price but if they work then I can deal with it. but on the other hand if they are going to interfere with my standing on the pegs then I will go another route.
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Old 06-29-2014, 10:12 AM   #200
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I have big calves and could feel them while standing. (In the garage) but during actual use I didn't notice them.
I have the wider KTM Rally pegs so that might have helped.
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Old 06-29-2014, 10:53 AM   #201
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Have any of you

After installing this heat shield felt the frame and ecu area after a hot ride? I would ... It's really hot down there and in the long run I think your going to cook the electronics. That mat your laying on top of the ecu is just keeping the heat in


I understand the heat thing but after riding a 1198 for a few seasons this bike is a walk in the park heat wise :)
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Old 06-29-2014, 11:51 AM   #202
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After installing this heat shield felt the frame and ecu area after a hot ride? I would ... It's really hot down there and in the long run I think your going to cook the electronics. That mat your laying on top of the ecu is just keeping the heat in


I understand the heat thing but after riding a 1198 for a few seasons this bike is a walk in the park heat wise :)
is there anyway you can get the blanket under electronics? maybe if someone has a heat gun thermometer you can do a before and after comparison?
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Old 06-29-2014, 12:10 PM   #203
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is there anyway you can get the blanket under electronics? maybe if someone has a heat gun thermometer you can do a before and after comparison?
One can put a $12 Arduino Nano V3 attached to an accurate $1-2 digital thermometer connected via I2C protocol...
I did that with my Strumputer project for DL650. One thermometer is under the seat and another in the cockpit. They give very accurate readings with 0.1C precision.

My solution is mounted, but a temporary Arduino (without display) just logging temperature from one or more thermometers can verify what's really going on there. If I had a KTM 1190 ADV I would have probably done this experiment.

https://code.google.com/p/stromputer/


Arduino Nano V3, very small, runs of 12V:


DS18B20 I2C digital temperature sensor:
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:49 PM   #204
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Ordered these late last week and already here on Monday! Easy install, nice fit, and a ride today in 80+ degree weather shows it works well.

Pricey to be sure but good craftsmanship and it looks stock, not aftermarket.
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Old 07-01-2014, 04:10 AM   #205
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One can put a $12 Arduino Nano V3 attached to an accurate $1-2 digital thermometer connected via I2C protocol...
I did that with my Strumputer project for DL650. One thermometer is under the seat and another in the cockpit. They give very accurate readings with 0.1C precision.

My solution is mounted, but a temporary Arduino (without display) just logging temperature from one or more thermometers can verify what's really going on there. If I had a KTM 1190 ADV I would have probably done this experiment.
Hi BigMan75.

Thanks a lot for sharing this and your software, it's a nice design. After all your hard work on the development, would you be interested to launch a KickStarter project to take it into production? I daresay after-market suppliers e.g. Wings, Touratech would be interested if you gear up via Kickstarter.
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Old 07-02-2014, 07:54 AM   #206
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Hi BigMan75.

Thanks a lot for sharing this and your software, it's a nice design. After all your hard work on the development, would you be interested to launch a KickStarter project to take it into production? I daresay after-market suppliers e.g. Wings, Touratech would be interested if you gear up via Kickstarter.

Hi Rob,
Thanks for your kind words.
I don't want to pollute your thread with my project, just wanted to assist potential heat diagnostics solutions. My main interest is to be able to get a KTM 1190 ADV without major heat issues. This is one of the main reasons I will not buy the KTM 1190 ADV, for now. Maybe the 2015 model is better.

I was thinking about launching a KickStater project. But the thing is, I'm not sure what the product is and who the target audience would be. The modern bikes already have battery and/or gear indicator and/or temperature display.
Also I do not know how to package it properly (i.e. design a small cost effective enclosure and solution). I am software architect, with some experience in electronics, but not a package engineer. My prototype was not designed for large scale production.
Making this a product is not easy.
Also I'm not sure there is any real revenue there is here.
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Old 07-03-2014, 12:06 AM   #207
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Hi Guys!

Thanks for all the valuable input in this forum! You're really helping us guys who lives abroad about the serious issues and how to overcome them regarding the bike.

After making a full day test ride over 450 km on 1190 ADV (standard version) I decided to buy it. (I'm not tall enough for R version, just 178 cm)

My main concern and question is that I'm travelling with my wife a lot, and apparently this seat cooler solution channels all the hot air to the pillion foot peg.

Are there anybody who figured out something to solve this issue? I was checking the pictures and the outlet of the seat cooler is really blowing everything right to her feet. Maybe another additional plastic part that will cover that area too until the pillion foot peg is also covered? Which leads me to my other question, is it possible that maybe wings is already working on an improved second gen seat cooler?

Just curious...

Thanks in advance for all the input..
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Old 07-05-2014, 09:28 AM   #208
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seat coolers installed in 10mn, haven't tried yet but at least it's looking good!
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Old 07-05-2014, 12:44 PM   #209
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I'm on a European tour right now and it was 29 degrees Celsius in Monaco today. Riding through the principality, the coolers certainly help and there is a marked difference when stopped at traffic lights etc. Yes, there is still a load of heat that emanates from the engine, but my legs aren't suffering like they were before, especially the left leg. A sound investment,
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Old 07-05-2014, 01:59 PM   #210
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Hi Rob,
Thanks for your kind words.
I don't want to pollute your thread with my project, just wanted to assist potential heat diagnostics solutions. My main interest is to be able to get a KTM 1190 ADV without major heat issues. This is one of the main reasons I will not buy the KTM 1190 ADV, for now. Maybe the 2015 model is better.

I was thinking about launching a KickStater project. But the thing is, I'm not sure what the product is and who the target audience would be. The modern bikes already have battery and/or gear indicator and/or temperature display.
Also I do not know how to package it properly (i.e. design a small cost effective enclosure and solution). I am software architect, with some experience in electronics, but not a package engineer. My prototype was not designed for large scale production.
Making this a product is not easy.
Also I'm not sure there is any real revenue there is here.
The only issue is yr legs and thats why I made the shields as well for mine but trust me the bike is not suffering. I've put it down somewhere already that I was stuck in a traffic jam in Buenos Aires in a tunnel (2 up fully loaded) @45C for about 45'. Luckily I had the shields on. Was riding at walking pace and when I got out the water temp gauge had 2 bars left and oil at 110c (using Motul;)) Bike was fine...just get one if you want one! ...Remember they are high performance engines and guess what...they get hot!:)
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