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Old 08-15-2014, 08:42 PM   #256
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I just purchased the new 1190, drove 100 miles got so irritate I put the bike for sell. I'm glad I found this!!! I will try spray the cylinder head and pipes first with ceramic coat, than I will figure out if the Wings are really necessary. (just try to avoid the extra $ after spend all this $) Any pictures from inside the Seat Cooler Wings? can we improve? maybe put a heat shield inside part? tks.

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Old 08-16-2014, 11:07 PM   #257
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I completely removed the plastic snorkles and air seems to flow through the engine area much better......or so i think
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Old 08-17-2014, 07:06 PM   #258
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Hi Folks

I fitted the Wings "Testicools" kit today after reading positive reviews from this thread - thanks Guys.

I thought folks may be interested in the solution I came up with earlier for the hot seat.

This will also stop hot air coming up the gap to the pillion seat which some still complain of with wings solution.

Made it from a car windscreen heat shield. Didn't stop heat on inner thighs but it is very effective in stopping the seat getting hot - which also made it more comfy. I think the heat causes the seat foam to compress too much putting your arse on the hard plastic base.

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Just so you know they sell this stuff by the roll at lowes that has a sticky back. did basically the same thing on my 950, and stuck it on the inside of the tool well underneath; works brilliantly.
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Old 08-18-2014, 08:10 AM   #259
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I'm researching this as a potential owner, looking to buy an 1190 R for 2015. Apologies if this has been covered somewhere, but is anybody solving this with a ECU map change, cat removal, and exhaust setup?
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Old 08-18-2014, 08:17 AM   #260
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I'm researching this as a potential owner, looking to buy an 1190 R for 2015. Apologies if this has been covered somewhere, but is anybody solving this with a ECU map change, cat removal, and exhaust setup?
My exhaust is coming back from the welder today - will let folks know. One problem is it's temperature dependent - and its cooler here right now.
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Old 08-18-2014, 10:17 AM   #261
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Just so you know they sell this stuff by the roll at lowes that has a sticky back. did basically the same thing on my 950, and stuck it on the inside of the tool well underneath; works brilliantly.

What's the product called? Can you tell the link to product.

Thanks.
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Old 08-18-2014, 10:57 AM   #262
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What's the product called? Can you tell the link to product.

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http://www.lowes.com/pd_154017-81326...7C1&facetInfo=

I've used a similar product from Home Depot for sound deadening in my daughter's Toyota truck doors and cab and as a heat shield on my current SV1000S to insulate the battery box from exhaust heat. Works very well on both accounts and has remained stuck in place.
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:01 AM   #263
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Definite improvement with ceramic coating and cat delete. Looks great too. Got the pipe back from the welder yesterday, and took the bike for a ride in shorts (yes I can hear the atgatt folks already).

Not a scientific test yet, but I can already tell it is a noticeable improvement. Cost me less than $200 total. I used hole saws of different sizes to get the cat out, still took time. I used a respirator, and I saved all the pieces and mailed them to a recycler.

After a long ride and the bike fully up to temp - in cooler outdoor temps - I was able to touch the rear shock right after the ride. The headers were obviously burning hot, but the bike radiates less heat.

No or very little difference in sound. Bike runs great.
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Old 08-19-2014, 08:00 AM   #264
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Don't think it's necessary ... CF withstands very high temperatures (used in Gas Turbine impellers) and doesn't radiate the heat much! But if you like to lovingly caress your new heat shields and not get your fingers "warm", it'll help with that :-)
It is not the CF that might fail, as you correctly states. It has a high thermal resistance, but the resin used to bond it. Many polymers NOT needing post heat cure, are good till about 150 deg.F. After then they begin to show stress. Some go all the way to 200 deg. F. But above that, they need to be post heat cured....ie, cured with elevated heat. I have no clue what Wings use, but if you are nervous about the thermal resistance, all you have to do, is to ride the hell out of the bike, and then stop, and see if you lightly can bend the CF piece. If it feels as stiff as prior to riding, then you are good. If it feels more like plastic, then it is stressed. That methods works for all CF layup, except for honeycomb construction.
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Old 08-19-2014, 09:15 AM   #265
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It is not the CF that might fail, as you correctly states. It has a high thermal resistance, but the resin used to bond it. Many polymers NOT needing post heat cure, are good till about 150 deg.F. After then they begin to show stress. Some go all the way to 200 deg. F. But above that, they need to be post heat cured....ie, cured with elevated heat. I have no clue what Wings use, but if you are nervous about the thermal resistance, all you have to do, is to ride the hell out of the bike, and then stop, and see if you lightly can bend the CF piece. If it feels as stiff as prior to riding, then you are good. If it feels more like plastic, then it is stressed. That methods works for all CF layup, except for honeycomb construction.
Wings has been making carbon fiber exhaust end caps for years - I would trust they know what they are doing. Sure looks like it anyway!
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Old 08-19-2014, 10:57 AM   #266
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Wings has been making carbon fiber exhaust end caps for years - I would trust they know what they are doing. Sure looks like it anyway!
I am sure they are. My post was merely intended to offer insight to the poster who wanted to add the heat blanket to the CF layup. I wanted to offer a way for him/her to check the potential stress of the layup. It looks like a fine piece of CF.
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Old 08-22-2014, 12:41 PM   #267
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I ordered the Wings cooler on Monday and received it in Texas on Friday - Thank you Rod for tremendous service.
That was just in time, as I left for a 2400 mile trip along the Gulf Coast and Smoky Mountains the next day.
Just returned yesterday and got to say these things really work well. I have the Ergo seats on the bike which are thicker than the stock seats and I believe are slightly cooler as a result. I used the stock heat shield under the Ergo seats and also added the glass-fiber reflective cloth that came with the Wings parts. That might be overkill, but the results are a tremendous improvement.

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Old 09-08-2014, 01:09 PM   #268
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Looks like someone in BDCW took my advice, or great minds think alike

The entire surface is covered. Honestly, the heat is the #1 concern I had, so this eases my way to get the 2015 R model.

http://blackdogcw.com/black-dog-shop...re-detail.html
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Old 09-08-2014, 02:45 PM   #269
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Looks like someone in BDCW took my advice, or great minds think alike

The entire surface is covered. Honestly, the heat is the #1 concern I had, so this eases my way to get the 2015 R model.

http://blackdogcw.com/black-dog-shop...re-detail.html
...at the small expense of making the bike look absolutely awful.
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Old 09-08-2014, 03:04 PM   #270
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...at the small expense of making the bike look absolutely awful.
First, Function-Over-Form.
Second, the form can be fixed with some texture (e.g. carbon fiber like decal).

Yes, it is fugly. I don't care. My thighs would not be cooked, seems much more important, and they cover that area anyhow.
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