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Old 02-18-2015, 10:15 AM   #1
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A copied KTM 1190 coming ?

This is getting freaky ...check out this copy of I think a Triumph? A Honley ??
At this rate KTM 1190/1290 copies are next for sure!!..
You gottah admit that front fender is stylin and that swing arm looks substantial? ( am still wondering though what that heck that orange/yellow thing is on the front wheel though)


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Old 02-18-2015, 10:25 AM   #2
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CSC Motorcycles Cyclone RX-3

This motorcycle was reviewed:

http://www.advpulse.com/adv-bikes/csc-motorcycles-cyclone-rx-3-review/

Great bike for the Girlfriend/Wife or first time or smaller adventure riders.



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55.12 in (1,400 mm)
8.27 in (210 mm)
31.30 in (795 mm)
359 lbs (163 kg)
331 lbs (150 kg)
4-stroke, liquid-cooled, single cylinder
249.6cc
11.5 : 1
Fuel injection
24.8 HP
16.5 lb.-ft.
84 mph
Electric
6-speed
Inverted Telescopic, 5.1 in. (130mm) travel
Link Type Adjustable Shock, 5.6 in. (142mm) travel
dual-piston caliper, single disc
single-piston caliper, single disc
100/R90-18″, Tube Type
130/R70-15″, Tube Type
4.23 gal (16.0 L)
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55.12 in (1,400 mm)
8.27 in (210 mm)
31.30 in (795 mm)
359 lbs (163 kg)
331 lbs (150 kg)
4-stroke, liquid-cooled, single cylinder
249.6cc
11.5 : 1
Fuel injection
24.8 HP
16.5 lb.-ft.
84 mph
Electric
6-speed
Inverted Telescopic, 5.1 in. (130mm) travel
Link Type Adjustable Shock, 5.6 in. (142mm) travel
dual-piston caliper, single disc
single-piston caliper, single disc
100/R90-18″, Tube Type
130/R70-15″, Tube Type
4.23 gal (16.0 L)
$3,495
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Old 02-18-2015, 10:33 AM   #3
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Painterdude: here I am to you aid, mate! That yellow/orange thing in the fork is an aerodynamics device (well, err...two devices!) meant to increase air penetration capability, so that the bike would reach further 0,0572 kms/hour top speed (not more because one has to consider the weight of the devices themselves, their exact location and form factor, the strength applied to the bolts and countless other factors too difficult to explain...).
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Old 02-18-2015, 12:38 PM   #4
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In looking at the review of the triumphy copy thingy I am now convinced completely. NEVER ever ever EVER, believe a word those, paid by the glowing word, guys write ! Remember the " best bike in the universe" type comments re the KTM 1190 !!..The worry point is they are now spewing similar stuff re the 1290 ..[/QUOTE]


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Old 02-18-2015, 12:53 PM   #5
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In looking at the review of the triumphy copy thingy I am now convinced completely. NEVER ever ever EVER, believe a word those, paid by the glowing word, guys write ! Remember the " best bike in the universe" type comments re the KTM 1190 !!..The worry point is they are now spewing similar stuff re the 1290 ..
You are right, mate: in the words of the motojournalists the KTM 1190 Adventure was the best bike in the universe and the new 1290SA is now reigning over all universes - known and unknown!
That doesn't bother me, at all - I know (and you know), from my own experience, the KTM 1190 Adventure is indeed a GREAT, great bike. And I honestly believe the new 1290SA can only be better.
So, let them try to copy these high end bikes - it will be fun to watch.
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Old 02-18-2015, 01:07 PM   #6
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You are right, mate: in the words of the motojournalists the KTM 1190 Adventure was the best bike in the universe and the new 1290SA is now reigning over all universes - known and unknown!
That doesn't bother me, at all - I know (and you know), from my own experience, the KTM 1190 Adventure is indeed a GREAT, great bike. And I honestly believe the new 1290SA can only be better.
So, let them try to copy these high end bikes - it will be fun to watch.
fergot you are gittin a 1290. If you cut the baloney by half it still comes off looking like a great ride for its intended target use.
I do hope for all who are so looking forward to it ..that KTM got it right the first time around and all the hyperbole ..is fact.

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Old 02-18-2015, 08:31 PM   #7
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not even close, that thing is freakin ugly! looks more like a GS:
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Old 02-19-2015, 01:43 AM   #8
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not even close, that thing is freakin ugly! looks more like a GS:
More particularly the f800 version.
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Old 02-19-2015, 08:56 AM   #9
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ya ..I do note the attempt at a BMW badge ..
Apparently the Honely name and the design comes from a British importer who lives in Honely England ..who developed the bike with the Chinese..
The focus is to get a bike that looks the part and gets great gas mileage and is ultra cheap- as in multitudes of thousands cheaper.. Speed, power (makes a KLR look like a rocket ship) , and given the construction, durability are sacrificed.
This bike? is an invitation to disaster for the neophyte who might actually adventure on such ,but prolly more than good enough on the roads and back roads of G Britian.



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Old 02-19-2015, 09:00 AM   #10
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Don't be such a whinner, painterdude. This Honley screen is a must have...
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Old 02-19-2015, 09:11 AM   #11
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Don't be such a whinner, painterdude. This Honley screen is a must have...
well there is that ...! LOL
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Old 02-19-2015, 10:43 PM   #12
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where do you even get 15" tires JC whitney?
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Old 02-20-2015, 08:52 AM   #13
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Joe from CSC here. We are the North American importers of the Zongshen RX3. I know the Internet is what it is, and the haters are gonna hate (in fact, I wrote a blog just for folks like that at http://californiascooterco.com/blog/?p=14570), but if you'd like to get the facts please check us out at www.CSCMotorcycles.com. You might check out the road and off road tests by Motorcycle.com, ADVPulse, and ADVMoto, too.

If you're in So Cal and you'd like to ride the bike, please stop by and I'll take you for a ride up in the San Gabriel Mountains.

Oh, and with tongue in cheek, here are a couple of photos you might enjoy...





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Old 02-20-2015, 11:55 AM   #14
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hum,,there is an adage that tends to be true ..You get what you pay for .
If its way cheaper than other products ..it has used cheaper labor or parts.
In this case the price disparity speaks volumes. A cursory look at how this thing is bolted together says both are true for this ..yes .. thingy.

Funny how our values have changed..Once we bought for the long term .. and would pay whatever was needed to have a product that did its job to the highest degree and lasted ..Now we look for the cheapest and want it to do everything well...and so advertisers try to hit those marks with looks and advertising.

Another thing that is true .. in general MC rags are not to be listened to. They overstate or understate. That said one article was brave enough to write that the suspension on these two wheeled entities bottomed out " when landing from only a mild jump (front/rear travel 5.4 and 5.6 inches, respectively).
They went onto say: More crucial to the Cyclone’s performance is its 15-inch rear wheel, which negates any real selection of available tires.

Do I hate anyone or anything ..NO. That label is used to characterize as gratuitously pejorative any push back from a position or in this case a product.
If someone wants a sub 5 clam two wheeled motored devise with limited power or adventure capability but has long range @ good gas mileage made by cheap labor and cheap parts..go for it!!

If that combo was the4 ticket to success. BMW and Mercedes would be long ago underwater. It is of note that the Chinese folk love those very cars ..
I think they know sumthing about value!!

you get what you pay for .
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Old 02-20-2015, 12:15 PM   #15
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what can you fit in those tiny panniers!? toothbrush.... and?
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