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Old 07-26-2014, 08:19 AM   #826
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I know of two bikes

Right now ( one dead in a parking lot) both with dust in the bike. Valves so tight the bike will not start. Ktm paid for two valve adjustments on one bike but will not do it again

Yes fantastic bike but Ktm does not give a crap they sell them all. Wish Moto mags would write the truth ( ha ha )
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Old 07-26-2014, 11:48 AM   #827
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BTW I was told the KTM guys say the air cleaner works great ..wait for it ...if its not exposed to dust..?????????????????????????????LOL!

That verbatim is what dealer told me yesterday. What a bunch of BS. I have the UNI installed but it's crazy that they all still say the same lies.
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Old 07-30-2014, 11:21 AM   #828
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I don't know if it has anything to do with KTM looking into this issue, but I just tried to order new intake trumpets from the dealer and he can't order trumpets for the '13 or '14. Not available and no dealer/customer pricing. Hummm....
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Old 07-30-2014, 12:02 PM   #829
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Just an FYI for UK owners experiencing this issue. Under the Sales Of Goods Act you will have a seriously strong case for taking the bike back to the dealer as it's clearly "Not fit for purpose". The dealer will then have to repair, replace or refund (they have the choice).

Remember, vehicles are expected to be "free from minor or major defect" and "fit for purpose" for six years from initial purchase.

Everyone else in the world? Same as me in Muscat, screwed... probably. (I've now had a unifilter fitted)
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Old 07-30-2014, 01:53 PM   #830
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Thumb Not an owner yet, but considering '14 Adv Std. Dealers?

Fresh lurker and first time poster.

In the past few weeks I have my heart set on a brand-spankin' new Orange 1190 Adv Std w/EDS. I am entirely new to KTM so I have been feverishly scouring this forum to learn as much as I can before I make the leap. Some of the post are disconcerting to say the least. The proposition of dropping $20k on a new bike and accessories, then having to fix a laundry list of problems myself or fight my dealer to do it, scares hell out of me. BUT I REALLY WANT ONE NOW! (I just bought a '14 Chevy Silverado with complete knowledge of all their recall issues because they are under a microscope and have addressed every one promptly. Will KTM dealers finally "get it" too?)

That said, is there any information available on KTM dealer ratings? I have a local KTM dealer that I have not done any business with and know nothing about them. There are several other dealers within 3 hours of me as well. Does KTM post dealer survey results somewhere?

Great forum with dedicated inmates, for sure!
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Old 07-30-2014, 02:10 PM   #831
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Fresh lurker and first time poster.

In the past few weeks I have my heart set on a brand-spankin' new Orange 1190 Adv Std w/EDS. I am entirely new to KTM so I have been feverishly scouring this forum to learn as much as I can before I make the leap. Some of the post are disconcerting to say the least. The proposition of dropping $20k on a new bike and accessories, then having to fix a laundry list of problems myself or fight my dealer to do it, scares hell out of me. BUT I REALLY WANT ONE NOW! (I just bought a '14 Chevy Silverado with complete knowledge of all their recall issues because they are under a microscope and have addressed every one promptly. Will KTM dealers finally "get it" too?)

That said, is there any information available on KTM dealer ratings? I have a local KTM dealer that I have not done any business with and know nothing about them. There are several other dealers within 3 hours of me as well. Does KTM post dealer survey results somewhere?

Great forum with dedicated inmates, for sure!

There are a couple folks (not naming names) on here that make a lot of useless noise (over and over)

The bike has a couple known issues but they are all preventable inexpensively. The newest 2014 models sorted most teething issues. Buy a Unifilter when you take delivery and ride the wheels off it. I would guess 98/100 buyers would do it again. It's an amazing ride, no other bike is in the same league.
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Old 07-30-2014, 02:16 PM   #832
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If I can verify some decent performance out of my local KTM dealer, I think I will take the plunge. From other suggestions, I have emailed my dealer the questions and concerns regarding the '13/early '14 known issues and will see if they even acknowledge.
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There are a couple folks (not naming names) on here that make a lot of useless noise (over and over)

The bike has a couple known issues but they are all preventable inexpensively. The newest 2014 models sorted most teething issues. Buy a Unifilter when you take delivery and ride the wheels off it. I would guess 98/100 buyers would do it again. It's an amazing ride, no other bike is in the same league.
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Old 07-30-2014, 02:51 PM   #833
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There are a couple folks (not naming names) on here that make a lot of useless noise (over and over)



The bike has a couple known issues but they are all preventable inexpensively. The newest 2014 models sorted most teething issues. Buy a Unifilter when you take delivery and ride the wheels off it. I would guess 98/100 buyers would do it again. It's an amazing ride, no other bike is in the same league.

Not saying names.... ROFL. Last name "the great"?? I would totally buy the bike again. Buy and install the UNI before you ride it out of your driveway. Nothing's perfect but this bike is surely one of the greats.
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Old 07-30-2014, 02:58 PM   #834
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Yup, agree with the bike and uni. It works fantastic. So good that I tried to order some new trumpets today so I could hack them up and install the single 2-stage uni to each trumpet and do away with the top air box cover all together. Bike screams and zero dust/dirt issues since installing the uni.
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Old 07-30-2014, 03:04 PM   #835
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So if I can get a '14 with recent build date, just install my own Uni and assume the other niggles are sorted out? (cash in hand, and one foot out the door on the way to the dealer if you say yes...) I have tried to to compile a list of issues and tweaks. From what I have read I may not need to worry about many of them as I get a 2 year warranty on STD anyhow.
1. Add Unifilter - must be done.
2. Add bad fuel dongle - for good measure.
3. Check sidestand spring - Probably not an issue anymore.
4. Check battery cables and crimps - may still be an issue.
5. Check coolant caps
6. Add inline fuel filter - may not be an issue anymore but cheap insurance.
7. Check bolts on center stand
8. Check brake discs for excessive play
9. Steering head bearings need to be torqued frequently
10. Check clutch cover for leaks - may not be an issue anymore.
11. Torque all spokes - just good practice anyhow.
12. Double-check the insulation on the exhaust shield.
13. Make sure dealer has update the seat from cooking nuts.
14. Get all firmware updates and proof the dealer performed them.
15. Twist throttle and grin!
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Not saying names.... ROFL. Last name "the great"?? I would totally buy the bike again. Buy and install the UNI before you ride it out of your driveway. Nothing's perfect but this bike is surely one of the greats.
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Old 07-30-2014, 03:11 PM   #836
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So if I can get a '14 with recent build date, just install my own Uni and assume the other niggles are sorted out? (cash in hand, and one foot out the door on the way to the dealer if you say yes...) I have tried to to compile a list of issues and tweaks. From what I have read I may not need to worry about many of them as I get a 2 year warranty on STD anyhow.
1. Add Unifilter - must be done.
2. Add bad fuel dongle - for good measure.
3. Check sidestand spring - Probably not an issue anymore.
4. Check battery cables and crimps - may still be an issue.
5. Check coolant caps
6. Add inline fuel filter - may not be an issue anymore but cheap insurance.
7. Check bolts on center stand
8. Check brake discs for excessive play
9. Steering head bearings need to be torqued frequently
10. Check clutch cover for leaks - may not be an issue anymore.
11. Torque all spokes - just good practice anyhow.
12. Double-check the insulation on the exhaust shield.
13. Make sure dealer has update the seat from cooking nuts.
14. Get all firmware updates and proof the dealer performed them.
15. Twist throttle and grin!


Sounds like you did your homework on the bike. Mine has a build date of Nov 2013 (2014 model) and all the updates were done on mine. I'd say if you find one with a build date after that you are good to go. I have almost 8000 miles on mine with the only issue a broken outside air temp sensor. Replaced quickly under warrantee.
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Old 07-30-2014, 03:14 PM   #837
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So if I can get a '14 with recent build date, just install my own Uni and assume the other niggles are sorted out? (cash in hand, and one foot out the door on the way to the dealer if you say yes...) I have tried to to compile a list of issues and tweaks. From what I have read I may not need to worry about many of them as I get a 2 year warranty on STD anyhow.
1. Add Unifilter - must be done.
2. Add bad fuel dongle - for good measure.
3. Check sidestand spring - Probably not an issue anymore.
4. Check battery cables and crimps - may still be an issue.
5. Check coolant caps
6. Add inline fuel filter - may not be an issue anymore but cheap insurance.
7. Check bolts on center stand
8. Check brake discs for excessive play
9. Steering head bearings need to be torqued frequently
10. Check clutch cover for leaks - may not be an issue anymore.
11. Torque all spokes - just good practice anyhow.
12. Double-check the insulation on the exhaust shield.
13. Make sure dealer has update the seat from cooking nuts.
14. Get all firmware updates and proof the dealer performed them.
15. Twist throttle and grin!

I would just do step 1.... The rest is no big deal. Yes go buy the bike.
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Old 07-30-2014, 03:15 PM   #838
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Sold! Heading to the dealer Friday morning. Thanks for the feedback. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't looking at this purchase through orange-colored glasses!
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Sounds like you did your homework on the bike. Mine has a build date of Nov 2013 (2014 model) and all the updates were done on mine. I'd say if you find one with a build date after that you are good to go. I have almost 8000 miles on mine with the only issue a broken outside air temp sensor. Replaced quickly under warrantee.
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Old 07-30-2014, 03:20 PM   #839
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I've only had mine since April, 3500k, but had 0.0 problems with my '14 1190 Standard. Best bike I've owned.
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Old 07-30-2014, 03:31 PM   #840
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Sold! Heading to the dealer Friday morning. Thanks for the feedback. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't looking at this purchase through orange-colored glasses!
Well done. Its a great ride. I get to ride mine every day - grin inducing hp.
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