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Old 05-09-2014, 11:06 AM   #1
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What do you guys think about this route?
Is it ok doing it in mid July?
http://goo.gl/maps/oBLbU

Or this
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=A...8,9,14&t=m&z=9

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Old 05-11-2014, 02:19 PM   #2
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What can't be done in July, can never be done. July all passes should be open. Is it a roundtrip. How many days, what bike? What travel style?
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Im so jealous. Rode there 10 years ago from Lausanne.
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Old 05-11-2014, 02:49 PM   #4
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Old 05-11-2014, 05:21 PM   #5
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Perhaps change your A B C to A C Grimselpass Furkapass B.
Or you just want to run Sustenpass twice? (like that would be a bad thing)
Take lots of photos.
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Old 05-11-2014, 09:27 PM   #6
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What can't be done in July, can never be done. July all passes should be open. Is it a roundtrip. How many days, what bike? What travel style?
Greets from Switzerland
Ok, We plan to arrive in Milano and rent a G650GS as it is economical and still powerful enough bike. I checked other cities but I think in Milano (correct me if I'm wrong) is cheaper to rent then say in Switzerland or Germany.
Days, probably 10 or 12. No offroads on a rented bike.
Here is a full route:
http://goo.gl/maps/wY4Vf - I have no idea why it doesn't gives me to continue from B straight to C on 19 thru Furca, but instead rerouts me back around...
And this is on the way back to Milano from Cortina. I want to stop for couple of rest days on Lk Grada. Probably in Gargnano (C) but your advice is appreciated - http://goo.gl/maps/t6k69
And to conclude the loop - http://goo.gl/maps/t6k69
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Old 05-11-2014, 09:35 PM   #7
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Perhaps change your A B C to A C Grimselpass Furkapass B.
Or you just want to run Sustenpass twice? (like that would be a bad thing)
Take lots of photos.
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That will be determined based on time we'll have. We may skip the B and will go to Susten and back or loop thru Furka (if won't do on the prev day from Milano).
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Old 05-12-2014, 11:25 AM   #8
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I checked other cities but I think in Milano (correct me if I'm wrong) is cheaper to rent then say in Switzerland or Germany.
That was the case last fall when I was searching for rentals in the general region. We ended up using Bianco Blu in Milan and had a great experience.
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That was the case last fall when I was searching for rentals in the general region. We ended up using Bianco Blu in Milan and had a great experience.
Thanks.
Can you please give me more info on it? What bike did you get and what are their rates?
How was the weather like?
So far I found these with reasonable rates http://www.motorbikerentitaly.com/rent_bmw.html

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Old 05-12-2014, 02:45 PM   #10
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.... but I think in Milano (correct me if I'm wrong) is cheaper to rent then say in Switzerland or Germany.
Nope, prices are just about equal, within a whisker, anyway.
Rented in Milano, very much prefer Switzerland nowadays. At least they mean what they say
Faster access to the "good stuff" from Zuerich, too...and the Moto Mader bikes come with a Swiss Autobahn sticker already, apart from being usually near new.
(and the "touring models" come with all the luggage options standard, pay extra in most other places.

Then again, LOVE Milano as a city.

Maybe check into this yarn?...but careful, it's HUUUGE and will take some time to work through.
Here's a little "teaser post", just click the link on the bottom to the full story (1600+ pics!!)

http://www.austouring.com/forum/show...&postcount=149

Did 6 weeks in 2007 ex Milano/ Bianco Blue, there's an even bigger write-up with 2500+ pics around covering that.
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Old 05-12-2014, 06:29 PM   #11
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Nope, prices are just about equal, within a whisker, anyway.
Rented in Milano, very much prefer Switzerland nowadays. At least they mean what they say
Faster access to the "good stuff" from Zuerich, too...and the Moto Mader bikes come with a Swiss Autobahn sticker already, apart from being usually near new.
(and the "touring models" come with all the luggage options standard, pay extra in most other places.

Then again, LOVE Milano as a city.

Maybe check into this yarn?...but careful, it's HUUUGE and will take some time to work through.
Here's a little "teaser post", just click the link on the bottom to the full story (1600+ pics!!)

http://www.austouring.com/forum/show...&postcount=149

Did 6 weeks in 2007 ex Milano/ Bianco Blue, there's an even bigger write-up with 2500+ pics around covering that.
Any known rental places in Switzerland?
On the other hand, rental prices could be about equal, but the airfare rates are cheaper from the States to Milano from what I've checked.
Fabulous pictures!!!
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Any known rental places in Switzerland?
On the other hand, rental prices could be about equal, but the airfare rates are cheaper from the States to Milano from what I've checked.
Fabulous pictures!!!


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Zuerich (just about anything from 50cc scoots to 1190s) Pricelist etc here.

After some attempt at an English version of their website, http://www.moto-mader.ch/ seems to have given up on that.
Still, just about everyone in the shop speaks English well enough.
Fine for contact/ emails/ phone calls.

It all depends on what you want and like, inclusions/ exclusions/ level of insurance excess/ personal financial risk (only SFR1500 with Mader on all their bikes), cost of first+last nights in or near "airport-cities" etc etc.
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Zuerich (just about anything from 50cc scoots to 1190s) Pricelist etc here.

After some attempt at an English version of their website, http://www.moto-mader.ch/ seems to have given up on that.
Still, just about everyone in the shop speaks English well enough.
Fine for contact/ emails/ phone calls.
+1 for Moto Mader - I've rented twice from them. Very professional.
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On the other hand, rental prices could be about equal, but the airfare rates are cheaper from the States to Milano from what I've checked.
This was another deciding factor for me as well. Milan was the cheapest city in the region to fly to from East Coast Canada.
As far as the motorcycle rentals go, we were looking for the absolute lowest prices and weren't as concerned about the make or model of bike as long as they were reliable. Bianco Blu was the cheapest by a fair margin when we factored in that they offer unlimited kilometers and we had no set route. My friend and I rented an older 660 Tenere and a KLE500. When we arrived the Tenere had been crashed by another customer and we were upgraded to a 2013 700GS for free. Both bikes were in good condition and we had no issues. Looking back, I would spend an additional few dollars per day for a better bike - the Beemer performed flawlessly but the KLE was far below the performance standards I'm used to (power, brakes, handling) and took away from the riding experience a little. That said it was still an amazing trip and I can't complain too much.
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This was another deciding factor for me as well. Milan was the cheapest city in the region to fly to from East Coast Canada.
As far as the motorcycle rentals go, we were looking for the absolute lowest prices and weren't as concerned about the make or model of bike as long as they were reliable. Bianco Blu was the cheapest by a fair margin when we factored in that they offer unlimited kilometers and we had no set route. My friend and I rented an older 660 Tenere and a KLE500. When we arrived the Tenere had been crashed by another customer and we were upgraded to a 2013 700GS for free. Both bikes were in good condition and we had no issues. Looking back, I would spend an additional few dollars per day for a better bike - the Beemer performed flawlessly but the KLE was far below the performance standards I'm used to (power, brakes, handling) and took away from the riding experience a little. That said it was still an amazing trip and I can't complain too much.
What time of the year did you go? Did you carried your helmets with you?

July is much more expensive than September, but I kind of hesitating as the wet/cold weather can hit Swiss Alps. Maybe end August will be ok too..
Milan or Zurich are the closest cities.
I'm looking at these guys to rent from in Milan. http://www.motorbikerentitaly.com/rent_bmw.html
The kilometers not included, but they can work out a good deal.

But if flying to Zurich, I will contact Moto Mader.
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