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Old 05-18-2014, 09:02 PM   #1
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Can an iPhone navigate the entire TAT?

So I have been going through old threads all day and current ones looking for an answer and cannot find one. I will be starting the TAT in less than a month and my question is, can an iPhone (with the proper app) navigate us the whole way?

I have MotionX GPS on my phone and have been playing with it all day but it doesn't seem like the greatest solution since downloading the maps for each section takes up a tremendous amount of storage. Are Navigon, CoPilot, etc better?

I am a complete beginner with any GPS in the first place so this is all very foreign to me but I am a quick learner. If you guys think it is a bad idea we can just buy a GPS but the larger screen on the phone is appealing as well as not having to deal with multiple devices.

Also, this obviously won't be our only means of navigation as we will have the roll charts and paper maps with us.

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Old 05-18-2014, 09:44 PM   #2
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I use this and it works great, you really just have to play with it. i did a couple of states TAT with it and it was flawless even without any cell reception.
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Old 05-19-2014, 04:58 PM   #3
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I use this and it works great, you really just have to play with it. i did a couple of states TAT with it and it was flawless even without any cell reception.
Did you have a problem with it taking up to much storage on your phone? I am thinking it will be 20+Gb for the whole trip. I guess I could find a way to upload on wifi along the trip at a coffee shop or something.

Anyone else have other opinions about the iPhone being capable of doing the entire TAT offline?
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Old 05-20-2014, 03:21 AM   #4
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So I have been going through old threads all day and current ones looking for an answer and cannot find one. I will be starting the TAT in less than a month and my question is, can an iPhone (with the proper app) navigate us the whole way?

I have MotionX GPS on my phone and have been playing with it all day but it doesn't seem like the greatest solution since downloading the maps for each section takes up a tremendous amount of storage. Are Navigon, CoPilot, etc better?

I am a complete beginner with any GPS in the first place so this is all very foreign to me but I am a quick learner. If you guys think it is a bad idea we can just buy a GPS but the larger screen on the phone is appealing as well as not having to deal with multiple devices.

Also, this obviously won't be our only means of navigation as we will have the roll charts and paper maps with us.

Thanks in advance,

Ted
I'm not familiar with motionx, but I am with maps. Are you using vector maps or image based ? Image = huge. Vector= tiny. Check it out
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Old 05-20-2014, 05:10 AM   #5
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I'm not familiar with motionx, but I am with maps. Are you using vector maps or image based ? Image = huge. Vector= tiny. Check it out
That is what I have read and I am pretty positive that Motionx uses image based. Vector based is the way to go it seems like but I cannot find an app that allows you to import vector based maps and lay tracks on top of them to follow. Maybe MotionX allows you to but I haven't found it yet. Im going to go on a 100 mile ride today to see if MotionX is feasible for the TAT. It may just take some getting used to. I will look more into Vector maps. Thanks for the help.
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Old 05-20-2014, 11:06 AM   #6
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That is what I have read and I am pretty positive that Motionx uses image based. Vector based is the way to go it seems like but I cannot find an app that allows you to import vector based maps and lay tracks on top of them to follow. Maybe MotionX allows you to but I haven't found it yet. Im going to go on a 100 mile ride today to see if MotionX is feasible for the TAT. It may just take some getting used to. I will look more into Vector maps. Thanks for the help.
You could pick up a cheap android from Craigslist and run locus on it.... That does everything you can imagine completely offline
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Old 05-20-2014, 02:05 PM   #7
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I have the entire TAT in Motion X, you just need to load the area's that the TAT crosses. You can drag the map file into long ovals instead of circles along the track like this...





Motion X and the iPhone has worked so well for me that I sold my Garmin 376c and haven't looked back.
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Old 05-20-2014, 07:43 PM   #8
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I have the entire TAT in Motion X, you just need to load the area's that the TAT crosses. You can drag the map file into long ovals instead of circles along the track like this...





Motion X and the iPhone has worked so well for me that I sold my Garmin 376c and haven't looked back.
That is awesome! I gave it a try today and it worked great. I did an 80 mile ride through backroads and it performed flawless. Now comes the long road of going to each section and downloading every single map for it...

I think I just needed some reassurance on MotionX GPS. Now I need to buy some RAM mounts and a LifeProof case for it. Leave in 3 weeks. Lots to do.

Thanks for everyones help.
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Old 05-21-2014, 12:10 PM   #9
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This the only one that I've found that the phone will not come out of in rough terrain. I'm using a LifeProof case.

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Old 06-23-2014, 10:34 PM   #10
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You Need A Map

I can say that the app You Need A Map is GREAT.
It loads the entire US into your phone at once. and you don't need cell or data services to run it.
Yes, it takes up space, but what else are you going to use that space for during your trip? Words with Friends?
It's really not that much space considering what it offers.
Plus it's FREE.

You can load gpx files into it and follow them.
You can track your own movements.
I used it for the TET and it was great.

I tried a couple of other apps, but You Need A Map was the best of the bunch.
I used it with all other apps and all data and phone carrier turned off so that only the GPS portion of the phone was being used.
Because it didn't have to try to download map data it gave me about 4 hours of use with no charger. I'd stop for lunch and recharge. Because I don't have a USB connection set up on the bike, that was my only limitation.
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Old 06-24-2014, 08:56 AM   #11
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Iphone tech has caught up

Durability is the problem I have found

Life proof case offers little in the way of vibe protection

Motionx is pretty damn good

If in coverage area sattelite imagery is easy
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Old 06-24-2014, 07:41 PM   #12
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Iphone tech has caught up

Durability is the problem I have found

Life proof case offers little in the way of vibe protection

Motionx is pretty damn good

If in coverage area sattelite imagery is easy
Ive been using iPhones on my bikes since they came out, I've never had one fail.
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Any off serious off road use or mostly road work?
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Old 06-25-2014, 05:14 AM   #14
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Any off serious off road use or mostly road work?
Mostly off-road, I've even used it for video in GNCC races.
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The vibrating function on my iPhone recently stopped working after a 1000 mile weekend on my 640 (mucho vibes).
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