ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Bikes > Orange Crush
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 05-22-2014, 10:16 PM   #16
motomuppet
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Location: Singapore
Oddometer: 442
Quote:
Originally Posted by lentuk View Post
What? Do you have more info on this?
haha...this is inevitable...those marketing bastards are messing with our heads man, and they will continue to do so until we learn not to crave material things!

So we are all stuffed then.
motomuppet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2014, 10:21 PM   #17
Bluesilver
Scrat
 
Bluesilver's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2013
Location: South Africa
Oddometer: 253
Quote:
Originally Posted by motomuppet View Post
haha...this is inevitable...those marketing bastards are messing with our heads man, and they will continue to do so until we learn not to crave material things!

So we are all stuffed then.
With all the crap KTM are having with the 1190 and now I read on the 1290SD forum they having quiet a few problems as well, I'd say get the bike but wait a year, they will for SURE have loads of recalls, it's the KTM way.
Bluesilver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2014, 07:51 AM   #18
Wonway
KTM Fanboi #2
 
Joined: Sep 2012
Location: Chicago
Oddometer: 416
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluesilver View Post
With all the crap KTM are having with the 1190 and now I read on the 1290SD forum they having quiet a few problems as well, I'd say get the bike but wait a year, they will for SURE have loads of recalls, it's the KTM way.
KTM recalls? Where?
__________________
1994 Ducati 888 LTD #61
2008 Husqvarna TE610
2014 KTM 1190 Adventure R
Wonway is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2014, 11:12 AM   #19
Bluesilver
Scrat
 
Bluesilver's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2013
Location: South Africa
Oddometer: 253
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wonway View Post
KTM recalls? Where?
.....1190 or 1290 as the 1190 has had 8 I know of on my bike alone and the SD, go check their forum out.
Bluesilver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2014, 11:15 AM   #20
Wonway
KTM Fanboi #2
 
Joined: Sep 2012
Location: Chicago
Oddometer: 416
I don't know of 1 1190 recall. Just product updates.
__________________
1994 Ducati 888 LTD #61
2008 Husqvarna TE610
2014 KTM 1190 Adventure R
Wonway is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2014, 11:26 AM   #21
LocuL
Gnarly Infantry
 
LocuL's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Location: Denmark - Jutland
Oddometer: 1,158
You could try tune the 1190 a bit. Its almost the same as the RC8R engine(94%)...
The cams, and valves should help create some of the wished topend power. And there can be done more for the intakes.
__________________
KTM 950(1190) Adv-s, Soon to be Project 1190
KTM 530 EXC-R 08
LocuL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2014, 12:23 AM   #22
Bluesilver
Scrat
 
Bluesilver's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2013
Location: South Africa
Oddometer: 253
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wonway View Post
I don't know of 1 1190 recall. Just product updates.
Here they call it warranty recall, a general term not for a bike replacement but part replacements due to design flaws by the OEM.

Direct from KTM;
"There is an outstanding recall on the bike to have the side stand console fitted. Other than that, all other recalls have been carried out. Please see attached document of your service history on the bike."

Product update is an improvement on an existing part that works, like say the Dash, it does not cover defect parts or poorly engineered parts like breaking side and center stands...leaking side covers, faulty breathers....quality control will relate directly to the assembly of the bike and to date, mine has all been about poorly designed parts like the airbox design, great for Superbikes needing RAM intakes, but a problem on Adventure bikes when you combine RAM intake with dusty roads...so, in comes Uni-Filter with their prefilter system and now KTM with their "Powerpart Sox".

http://www.superduke.net/forum/viewt...p?f=29&t=22948

1290 having similar engineering problems.

From what I have learned so far on these high end KTM street bikes, KTM are the LEADERS in selling hype,their marketing department is BRILLIANT at their jobs so much so that many people are willing to accept substandard service from dealers and incomplete engineered bikes just to have the bike and KTM's own multiple global recalls speaks volumes, linked to this, in different countries the local KTM branches are doing their own "upgrades" and no one is following a set standard which is very bad business practice, KTM Austria should be in control globally.

If I could do it again, I would NOT buy the 1190 or 1290 at launch, give it 2 years then KTM should have their engineering in order, right now I'm still loving my KTM300 and would not trade it for any other dirt bike.

Bluesilver screwed with this post 05-24-2014 at 12:37 AM
Bluesilver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2014, 10:28 AM   #23
pne
Studly Adventurer
 
pne's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Location: Alberta, Canada
Oddometer: 554
has anyone ridden the new 1290 and can compare it to the 1190? I found in the 1190 the engine sounded and felt pretty wheezy despite having lots of pull, it sounded like it didn't want to rev. But in the RC8R configuration it felt like a completely different motor, very light flywheel and fast revving, it pulled clean off 2k rpm with no effort. I'm hoping the 1290 will be similar, I love that torque.
__________________
Touring USA on a KTM Superduke, I have no idea what I'm doing:
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=890358
pne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2014, 07:31 AM   #24
Harold Waikiki
oldfatdumbbrokeoutof
 
Harold Waikiki's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Location: Camano Island, WA
Oddometer: 322
I really want one too. This one is not mine. I would have to keep my other bikes though. A real! Problem! HW.




Sent from my Flip Phone using Smackadoodle.
__________________
'14 KTM 1190R
'08 KTM 950 SE, '09 KTM 950 SE R Erzberg
'11 KTM 990 Dakar
'09 KTM 530 EXC, '12 KTM 350 EXC
'82 Honda CT 110
Harold Waikiki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2014, 07:38 AM   #25
markie_wales
Studly Adventurer
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Location: Hampshire, UK
Oddometer: 908
Quote:
Originally Posted by motomuppet View Post
N+1. this is the formula to calculate how many bikes you need. N being the number you currently own.
And N = W - 1, where W is the number of bikes that will make you wife leave you.

Cheers

Markie
__________________
- "Dad, when I grow up I want to ride motorbikes like you do." -------- "Son, you can't do both."
- Only bikers understand why dogs like to stick their heads out of car windows.
markie_wales is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2014, 03:34 PM   #26
lentuk OP
Adventurer
 
lentuk's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Location: Ramona CA
Oddometer: 53
I did the trade on Friday, been out riding since.
I cant really open it up but there is definitely more torque everywhere, it does seem to handle quite a bit better also but I only have a few hundred miles on the SDR to give a serious verdict.
Overall this is the bike I wanted all along, I am not sorry or remorseful the 1190 is gone, the Adventures are great bikes if you are really going to use them for what they are intended.
I am super happy that I have the SDR 1290.
Long live the Beast!
__________________
98 FLSTC
07 Triumph Bonneville
13 DR650
14 KTM 1290 SDR
lentuk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2014, 03:55 PM   #27
5 speed
Studly Adventurer
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Location: Orlando Florida
Oddometer: 848
Well to tell ya, I rode one of each back to back at my dealers demo day about 3 weeks ago. To be honest, I liked the SDs seating position better than the Adv. All it needs is Rox Risers and a small windshield. the 1190 I felt in comparison (rode the SD first) pegs too high led to a cramped position (even though the SDs were back from where I would have liked them). I didnt like where the bars were (felt too close). The heat coming off the pipes/ head was worse on the Adv then the SD. I live in FL and this a pretty much a deal breaker. My 950 is not like that. If I were to buy one I would buy the SD right now over the 1190. -Course I would have to figure out how to keep the 950 as well, otherwise not happening.
5 speed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2014, 04:00 PM   #28
5 speed
Studly Adventurer
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Location: Orlando Florida
Oddometer: 848
Quote:
Originally Posted by markie_wales View Post
And N = W - 1, where W is the number of bikes that will make you wife leave you.

Cheers

Markie
Right now for me its two. a 950 and a 530. Had the 950 for 4 years and the 530 for 3. The acceptance is there and even though I drop a load on them and camping gear, riding accessories etc, I cant get over to 3. I try, believe me!
5 speed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2014, 05:15 PM   #29
I JET
Adventurer
 
I JET's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Location: Australia
Oddometer: 52
I have a 2013 1190 STD that I bought in July last year and currently have just over 25,000kms on the clock.

I test road the 1290 2 months ago and fell in love. I had come from a sportsbike background so the insane 1290 power felt right at home. It was the brutal torque that impressed me the most. I felt the 1290 engine to be a little smoother than the 1190. Not quite as chuggy at low rpm's. And the way it looks. My god I love the look of this thing in black. When I got home I immediately advertised the 1190 but after 1 week I decided to take down the ad and keep the 1190. The thousands of dollars it was going to cost me was one factor but it was more that I bought the 1190 to get away from the sports bike sort of riding. Be more adventurous, see more places, do longer trips and get back out on the dirt as I had given up dirt bikes when I got into road bikes a few years back and was missing the off road stuff. I think I made the right choice and I think in a few years time I can see a 1290 sitting in my garage as a second bike.
__________________
1991 Yamaha 50 → 1989 Yamaha 80 → 1989 Honda XR80 → 1988 Honda XR100 → 1993 Honda XR250 → 1997 Honda XR400 → 2007 KTM 450 EXC → 1994 Honda RVF 400 → 2010 BMW S1000RR → 2010 Triumph 1050 Speed Triple →
2012 BMW S1000RR --> Bike of the Month DEC/2012 <--http://www.s1000rrforum.com/forum/bm...er-2012-a.html Current Bike → → 2013 KTM 1190 Adventure
I JET is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2014, 07:53 PM   #30
lentuk OP
Adventurer
 
lentuk's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Location: Ramona CA
Oddometer: 53
This was sort of my thinking to begin with.
But I have a well farkled DR650 that I adventure with so the SDR was what I needed.
Everything about the 1190 mechanically was fantastic, I just could not warm up to the look, beauty is in the eye of the beholder..
__________________
98 FLSTC
07 Triumph Bonneville
13 DR650
14 KTM 1290 SDR
lentuk is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 01:41 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014