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Old 07-10-2014, 01:02 PM   #31
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Gee, you're going two weeks earlier than I am. I'm leaving Montreal on the 1st, for a counter-clockwise toure around the TLH. I too hope to find that gift shop.


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Please post the name of shop if you can remember it.

NorWis, I am heading to Lab the end of next week. If I can track down the shop I'll pick an extra one up for you. Will send you a PM to get your address once I have it.
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Old 07-10-2014, 02:15 PM   #32
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Very nice. I'm looking forward to your review, I plan on embarking on a similar route mid September...
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Old 07-10-2014, 02:56 PM   #33
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I can't find the name of that gift shop, but it was on the corner of an intersection across the street from "Hotel North 2". In 2012 is was a green building.
If you get the sticker, just make sure NOT to apply it to the bike until the trip is done! There was a rider a few years ago that had to peel the sticker off his bike mid way through the TLH. Due to a spill he was unable to ride the rest of the TLH, he was put on a plane and taken to a hospital and the bike was transported back to his home town. Moral of the storey - do not apply the sticker until you have survived the TLH!
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Old 07-10-2014, 03:08 PM   #34
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I can't find the name of that gift shop, but it was on the corner of an intersection across the street from "Hotel North 2". In 2012 is was a green building.
If you get the sticker, just make sure NOT to apply it to the bike until the trip is done! There was a rider a few years ago that had to peel the sticker off his bike mid way through the TLH. Due to a spill he was unable to ride the rest of the TLH, he was put on a plane and taken to a hospital and the bike was transported back to his home town. Moral of the storey - do not apply the sticker until you have survived the TLH!
A link to my TLH Ride Report is in my signature line below.
Screw applying it, I wouldn't even buy it until I was at my final exit point, and even then I'd cross my fingers. (Superstitious - Me? Naaaaaah )
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Old 07-10-2014, 05:30 PM   #35
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June 11, 2014

Day 4

Leaving Lebel-Sur-Quevillon we took a picture of the sign on the office.



We also made an Inuksuk on the table to show we were there. Once you start spotting them you can see them EVERYWHERE!



We continued on heading north on route 113 toward Chibougamau. We had wanted to stay in the Reserve Faunique Ashuapmushuan instead of Lebel-Sur-Quevillon but that was well beyond the range we had in us. We stopped in Cree First Nation of Waswanipi to fuel up the bike and also ourselves.



Had a nice conversation with a fluent english speaking man who was really interested in our trip. I asked if there was a good place in town to eat and he pointed next door to "The Cafeteria".

Had a great breakfast with some nice folks that spoke a bit of english.



A few things I had not fully learned yet; there aren't many signs on the buildings, they are at the road and are usually small. Light switches for restrooms are on the OUTSIDE not inside. Even though a campground may have "showers" you still need to pay extra for them.

The "Cafeteria" from the outside.



Inside photo of cafeteria.



It may have looked like a restaurant on the inside but it still served cafeteria style. It was really good!

I used to live on Poplar Street so this was cool.



A few other pictures of Waswanipi. There may have been more ATV's/UTV's than other vehicles.



A stop sign in Cree and english.



Only another 134 KM to Chibougamau! Then we will make the turn south and head toward Baie-Comeau. Notice the trees. That's going to change over the next few pictures.



You can see the trees getting shorter and skinnier. They are also changing to mostly black spruce.





We had a lenghty stop for some construction. This was a pretty buggy area and we kept our visors down as much as possible. It gets a bit warm and stuffy without any air movement. The guy in the car ahead of us had his window down. Once the bugs zeroed in on him they were relentless. We could see him flailing around inside the car. Then all of a sudden he opened the door and started to gag. I think he got a mouthful of them! Here we are outside and the bugs weren't bothering us as long as the visors were down. We found it a bit comical.



We were starting to see a lot more water now. Rivers, lakes, creeks, etc. The rivers are much larger in Canada and Alaska than they are in the northern US.





Then we would be driving along and boom, a massive amount of wood debris would be laying on the ground. Not from logging or the remnants of logging but a huge "lawn mower" kind of machine must have been used.



Very few waysides or rest areas up north. Just the SOS phones (the pic below is one of them) or later on coming through Labrador or Newfoundland (I can't remember) you would also see little safety huts with a phone, too.



Maybe this is how superman gets around, eh?

Dylan gearing up to move on at the pull off for the phone. We carried our own satellite phone. It's in the orange pelican box on the top of the top case. Hmmmm, wonder if we needed it...



Back on the road Dylan taking more photos of the rocks:



At least at some of the construction sites you get some feedback as to how long the wait will be. 25 seconds left here.



Long straight (and boring) roads at times.



Not wanting to stop very often in the woods because the bugs can get pretty thick. If you're moving it's a non-issue. Coming in to La Dore and St. Felicien.

We were hoping to get further again today but we just can't seem to break free of the 350 mile mark. We are going to stay in Alma tonight.





We stop at a restaurant in Alma before we head to the campground. We are both tired and hot and welcome the air conditioning! I was able to scratch out enough charades to get us a pizza ordered. Not real fond of the "pepperoni" in Canada. More like a bolgna than pepperoni I'm used to.



This is where it gets REAL interesting with the language barrier. We are going to camp at another municipal campground named Complexe Touristique Dam-En-Terre D'Alma.

I went to the office and a very cute blond girl was at the counter. Bonjour. I say Bonjour in return and ask her if she speaks english. She says Why? Because I do not speak french. She speaks NO english at all so the charades begin. I find a picture of a tent on a brochure and get her to understand we would like a tent site. No power, no hydro. I pull out some cash and she all of a sudden gets a pretty darn good understanding of the english language.

No matter. The site was very nice and the campground was quiet, clean and at this time of year not very busy.

The map of the campground and our site circled (you can hardly see it).



Our view from the campground once our tent was up. This is between Lac Saint Jean and the Saguenay River. I think they call it La Grande Decharge. Our first exposure to Hydro Quebec. Quite an impressive operation here. When we get toward the "Eye of Quebec" it becomes even more impressive!



The fly is not all the way on yet so we could get some air into the tent and air out our sleeping bags. Things were starting to, ummmm, smell a bit "different", yeah, that's the word I'll use. :loll

We saw some guys rowing a skull.



Now it's shower time! I go to the restroom/shower house and find out that you have to plunk a quarter into the box to get 3 minutes in the shower. Crap. I go to the office and get some change from my blond friend and go back to the shower. I go into the middle shower (there's three) and prepare myself for a shower. Pop the two quarters in and nothing happens!

I get dressed and go back to the office and play charades with my friend again. I tell her shower 2 has taken my quarters (I gave two to Dylan) and didn't work. She says "No Douche?". Excuse me? Wild things are racing through my mind as to what she may be talking about. Wait a minute...shower/douche, I get it! Right no douche working. She gets on the radio and and speaks a lot of very fast french and I can hear "american" or something like that once in awhile. She says "No douche number 2". Ok, I get it. She gives me two quarters to replace the others and one is an american. I slide it back and tell her that won't work. She says in perfect english "I wonder how I got that". Why you little....

I take my 6 minute shower and it feels really good! Sorry no pictures of that...

We ride 350 miles today and are very hot and tired. We again go to bed early and are excited about getting to Baie-Comeau where we are thinking our trip will really start as we head up to Labrador and the Trans Labrador Highway.
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Old 07-10-2014, 05:32 PM   #36
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Very nice. I'm looking forward to your review, I plan on embarking on a similar route mid September...
Good luck! If you need/want any additional info you don't see please let me know.

Be safe!

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Screw applying it, I wouldn't even buy it until I was at my final exit point, and even then I'd cross my fingers. (Superstitious - Me? Naaaaaah )
I'm not superstitious either but I always wait until the trip is over to apply them. I think my reasoning is I don't want them to get torn off from a drop!

I could kick myself for not getting one of the "I survived..." stickers. All my Prudhoe Bay stickers didn't get applied until I was home. My ALCAN sticker was torn in half by a fall on the Trans Wisconsin Adventure Trail. Oh well. Adds "patina", right?

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I'm not superstitious either but I always wait until the trip is over to apply them. I think my reasoning is I don't want them to get torn off from a drop!

I could kick myself for not getting one of the "I survived..." stickers. All my Prudhoe Bay stickers didn't get applied until I was home. My ALCAN sticker was torn in half by a fall on the Trans Wisconsin Adventure Trail. Oh well. Adds "patina", right?

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Well I'm heading up there myself in August. If R-Rick or Mtl_biker come up dry, I'll try to find you one.
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Old 07-10-2014, 06:45 PM   #39
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I'm really enjoying your report and photos. Terrific!

Just curious though... are you writing all this AFTER your trip, or are you still on the trip and writing it every night? I first thought this was "live" but now I'm thinking it's "pre-recorded".

(Not that that's a bad thing.)
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Well I'm heading up there myself in August. If R-Rick or Mtl_biker come up dry, I'll try to find you one.
You would be my hero!

PM me with a cost and shipping and I'll take care of it!!!!

Thanks,

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June 12, 2014

Day 5

We were again up early. It had sprinkled on us sometime during the night but nothing terrible. We got packed quietly so we did not disturb anyone (wish everyone was that considerate).

Dylan was packing the bike while I tried to get a couple of camera batteries charged in the restroom.



As we left Alma we got to see the discharge from Lac Saint Jean. Powerful!



We had to go into town to fuel up before we started for the day. This was getting pretty expensive for premium fuel. I started to alternate between fill ups with premium and regular unleaded fuel. It wasn’t saving a boatload of money but every little bit helped. We didn’t see or feel the bike working any differently.

As we drove through town it was pretty apparent that the local car dealers were dealing with a strike.



We, ok, I, had a hard time finding the road we wanted to be on. We drove around for a bit then stopped in the Information Center. You will ALWAYS find very friendly and informative people that speak French and English or at least are willing to try and help you out no matter what. You can also find them quite easily because they all use a big “?” for a sign.

We were on route 169 and I was looking for route 172. The paper map I had in the map holder on my tank bag was not in perspective and that threw me way off. These folks gave us great directions.



Right outside the Information Center was this cool glass covered arch.



What is hard to see is the water flowing over it. The entire glass portion was “flowing” with water. Even the video below doesn’t do it justice. With the Hydro Quebec theme starting to take shape this was pretty cool and unique.



Just south of the city of Saguenay the Caribou River meets the Saguenay River.



I mean we are talking HUGE rivers here. The Caribou is tiny compared to the Saguenay.

Somewhere along the way I took these two videos. Here’s the story about the videos. I use a Contour GPS. Great videos and overall I’m pleased with it but one thing that really jacks me is the time and date do not stay on it. If you turn it on you need to wait for the GPS satellites to connect and provide the correct date and time. Well, if it had better battery life that would be OK. I don’t want to waste the batteries waiting for the GPS to connect. Also, when you change batteries you need to resync! That sucks when you’re traveling with a co-pilot able to swap batteries from behind while you focus on the marble like surface when you’re using tires you just figured out you’d never put on a bike again!!! Oops, did I just say that....?

Somewhere between Alma and the Saint Lawrence Seaway these videos were taken. How do I know that? I know the videos that were taken before and after so that places these two in between. It does number them sequentially so that’s my story. I’m going to stick with it, too.



This one I think is as we were coming up on the seaway. Notice the clouds. Pay attention to this. It will be important later on.



More day 5 later....it starts to get pretty interesting here. The sights begin to to be awe inspiring. The weather begins to play a significant role in how we travel. This is the point where you begin to really feel alone. We have not seen another motorcycle in days. Traffic is pretty scarce. Most of the time we are alone. That's ok. That's what we signed up for.

In other words...here's where the real adventure begins...
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I'm really enjoying your report and photos. Terrific!

Just curious though... are you writing all this AFTER your trip, or are you still on the trip and writing it every night? I first thought this was "live" but now I'm thinking it's "pre-recorded".

(Not that that's a bad thing.)
The Report is Live, the trip was pre-recorded
That's what I've settled on for my reports as well. I did a long trip and created the report as I went and it required too much time away from other stuff I like to do on trips (like bs and drink beer).

Another thing that waiting til the trip is done allows is crafting a theme that may not be apparent in the early stages.
I like what Todd is doing here, but after all the foreshadowing he's done, he'd better keep delivering timely updates.
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I'm really enjoying your report and photos. Terrific!

Just curious though... are you writing all this AFTER your trip, or are you still on the trip and writing it every night? I first thought this was "live" but now I'm thinking it's "pre-recorded".

(Not that that's a bad thing.)
It's Memorex...

It's nice to play it back in my head so that I can extend the trip in my mind and in my heart. This way it's not over when I get home.

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The Report is Live, the trip was pre-recorded
That's what I've settled on for my reports as well. I did a long trip and created the report as I went and it required too much time away from other stuff I like to do on trips (like bs and drink beer).

Another thing that waiting til the trip is done allows is crafting a theme that may not be apparent in the early stages.
I like what Todd is doing here, but after all the foreshadowing he's done, he'd better keep delivering timely updates.
I don't think I could have done it "live". Traveling with Dylan is great and he is very capable of being self sufficient but if I spent all this time writing and assembling pictures our time together to enjoy the adventure would be minimized.

I also get to relive it all again.

My wife, on our first trip to Prudhoe Bay, convinced me to keep a journal each day. That has been wonderful to refer back to. I keep all the little details that I may not remember. Names and places, of people and the correct spelling, etc. How many miles each day. Not a lot of detail but enough to jog the memory.

This is also a way for Dylan to be able to, after I'm long gone, recall the trip. The photos, the stories, the people. We can also share this with our friends like a book.

Yes, I plan on doing a bit each night as I can. Being gone for three weeks sure did leave my wife a lot of time to add to the honey-do list. I'm not sure I'll ever get it all done!

Thanks for hanging in there!!!

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Good idea. That's what I'll end up doing as well. I also have no idea where and how often I'll have a WiFi connection. Plus with my camera(s) I shoot RAW, and there's a lot more processing required and I might not be up to that while on the trip itself.

Not to mention the BS and beer which I also heartily partake in.

Cheers!

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That's what I've settled on for my reports as well. I did a long trip and created the report as I went and it required too much time away from other stuff I like to do on trips (like bs and drink beer).

Another thing that waiting til the trip is done allows is crafting a theme that may not be apparent in the early stages.
I like what Todd is doing here, but after all the foreshadowing he's done, he'd better keep delivering timely updates.
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