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Old 06-15-2014, 07:25 AM   #106
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Does anyone actually listen to Cal any more?

I hope he doesn't become another Spies.
To late he's 1/2 way there.
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Old 06-15-2014, 07:40 AM   #107
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Fantastic race and astonishing rides from the top three. Even Lorenzo was very speccy at first. Wonder what went wrong there?

One thing that bothered me was Marquez's rejoining the circuit so smoothly after he ran off that time into One, trying to overtake Rossi. It was pretty much run off or crash then for Marquez, so he stood up and ran off. But he rode down the escape road and rejoined after the ess bend alongside Rossi, who was leading, and ahead of Pedrosa. He then slowed a bit and let Pedrosa overtake him - but before the lap was out he'd gone back past Pedrosa and was hunting down Rossi.

I've seen this sort of thing happen in other forms of motorsport and I suppose the rule says only that he can't gain an advantage by leaving the circuit. In which case, technically, he might not even have had to wave Pedrosa past as he was ahead of him when he left the track.

Nevertheless, for me it makes the result a bit artificial. The key advantage Marquez gained by leaving the circuit was avoiding a crash. Neither Rossi nor Pedrosa needed that kind of help - at least until the final couple of corners.

BTW: Is anybody still wanting to tell us that Rossi was a fool to fire Burgess?
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Old 06-15-2014, 08:03 AM   #108
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BTW: Is anybody still wanting to tell us that Rossi was a fool to fire Burgess?
Rossi wins with JB: 80
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Old 06-15-2014, 08:09 AM   #109
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Good race. Was hoping for Anyone But Marquez. Oh well.
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Old 06-15-2014, 08:16 AM   #110
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Yea Mark!!!!
I think if Danny had taken out Marky at the end there, he would have been looking for a job tomorrow morning.
I would love to see this kid win every race this season.
And it just may happen!

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Old 06-15-2014, 09:07 AM   #111
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1. Marquez
2. Rossi
3. Pedrosa
4. Lorenzo
5. Bradley
6. A. Espargaro
7. P. Espargaro
8. Dovisioso
9. Iannone
10. Smith

13. Hayden

18. Edwards

DNF. Crutchlow (only lasted 15 laps - unsure why)
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Old 06-15-2014, 09:16 AM   #112
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Race control said that Redding cut T1 and docked him points, which elevated Hayden to 12th
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Old 06-15-2014, 09:25 AM   #113
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Yea Mark!!!!
I think if Danny had taken out Marky at the end there, he would have been looking for a job tomorrow morning.
I would love to see this kid win every race this season.
And it just may happen!

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I don't think Pedrosa would have been at fault here--I think it was more of a Marquez "moment" that led to the contact.
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Old 06-15-2014, 09:31 AM   #114
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I don't think Pedrosa would have been at fault here--I think it was more of a Marquez "moment" that led to the contact.
What "moment"....being in front? He seems to have that moment every time it counts this season!
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Old 06-15-2014, 09:50 AM   #115
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It made me laugh seeing the smelly midget's forced smile during the podium interview. He said he was happy. The rest of the time he looked like his dog just died.

I'll never forget 2006, at least Pedro remembered it enough not to knock his teammate down when he runs into him.
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Old 06-15-2014, 10:02 AM   #116
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Great race again! Even though Marquez claims all points so far, every race is really fun to watch in a way that it wasn't for many seasons. And I'm happy to see JLo seemingly having matured into a racer, who'se gritty and grinding fairings when need be! And that Rossi is up there challenging - there's something romantic about that.

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One thing that bothered me was Marquez's rejoining the circuit so smoothly after he ran off that time into One, trying to overtake Rossi. It was pretty much run off or crash then for Marquez, so he stood up and ran off. But he rode down the escape road and rejoined after the ess bend alongside Rossi, who was leading, and ahead of Pedrosa. He then slowed a bit and let Pedrosa overtake him - but before the lap was out he'd gone back past Pedrosa and was hunting down Rossi.

I've seen this sort of thing happen in other forms of motorsport and I suppose the rule says only that he can't gain an advantage by leaving the circuit. In which case, technically, he might not even have had to wave Pedrosa past as he was ahead of him when he left the track.

Nevertheless, for me it makes the result a bit artificial. The key advantage Marquez gained by leaving the circuit was avoiding a crash. Neither Rossi nor Pedrosa needed that kind of help - at least until the final couple of corners.
Are you saying that people shouldn't be allowed to save a crash and then continue..? I only see it as positive that there are better chances for a rider to rejoin after a mistake - the gravel trap generally breaks something off even at low speeds that forces retirement. And that surely cannot be better? Granted, saves like Ajo's are more spectacular to watch!

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I don't think Pedrosa would have been at fault here--I think it was more of a Marquez "moment" that led to the contact.
wait, what?? Someone runs into you from behind - meaning really from behind, he wasn't even able to challenge for the line at that moment - and it is your fault?? Are you seriously saying that there is any way, shape or form that you would be able to lay that on Marquez, had they gone down?
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Old 06-15-2014, 10:19 AM   #117
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I don't think Pedrosa would have been at fault here--I think it was more of a Marquez "moment" that led to the contact.
+1 Marquez was laying down some very aggressive passes to barge through too. Pedrosa showed a lot of grit there and despite 3rd was pretty chipper in the post-race. I don't see why he would be taking a pay cut any time soon.
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Old 06-15-2014, 10:21 AM   #118
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A couple thoughts from the races.

-The Moto3 crash with Juanfran Guevara was not pretty. He hit the barrier pretty hard. I don't think it would have turned out the same way if a MotoGP bike went down there. I can definitely see the concern with the premier class bikes getting too fast for some tracks/runoff areas

-Aegerter has impressed me this year. Just keeps quiet and goes about his work. The results show as he has been doing much better than last year.
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Old 06-15-2014, 10:35 AM   #119
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It looked to me like Marquez gave Pedrosa a brake check in the last turn to try to force him wide not knowing that Pedrosa was lined up to his inside.
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Old 06-15-2014, 10:36 AM   #120
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Fantastic race and astonishing rides from the top three. Even Lorenzo was very speccy at first. Wonder what went wrong there?

One thing that bothered me was Marquez's rejoining the circuit so smoothly after he ran off that time into One, trying to overtake Rossi. It was pretty much run off or crash then for Marquez, so he stood up and ran off. But he rode down the escape road and rejoined after the ess bend alongside Rossi, who was leading, and ahead of Pedrosa. He then slowed a bit and let Pedrosa overtake him - but before the lap was out he'd gone back past Pedrosa and was hunting down Rossi.

I've seen this sort of thing happen in other forms of motorsport and I suppose the rule says only that he can't gain an advantage by leaving the circuit. In which case, technically, he might not even have had to wave Pedrosa past as he was ahead of him when he left the track.

Nevertheless, for me it makes the result a bit artificial. The key advantage Marquez gained by leaving the circuit was avoiding a crash. Neither Rossi nor Pedrosa needed that kind of help - at least until the final couple of corners.

BTW: Is anybody still wanting to tell us that Rossi was a fool to fire Burgess?
I agree, I think they should have had MM sit up one position.

Great race!
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