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Old 06-15-2014, 09:51 AM   #121
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Rossi almost had it! He need a tiny bit more from his bike the last few laps, he was certainly up for the scrap. He did not look happy at the end of the interviews. He knows he has it.
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Old 06-15-2014, 10:53 AM   #122
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yes, Rossi appears to be close....

But how much extra does Marquez still have?? He did make passing Dani look easy, though it was one of DP's strongest races in a long time.
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Old 06-15-2014, 10:54 AM   #123
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Really good race. Dani was very good today. He did more to impress me with his battle with his TEAMMATE than I was with Rossi. I have come to expect that kind of performance, as well as Marquez's.
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Old 06-15-2014, 10:55 AM   #124
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While Marquez did re-join he sat up to behind Pedrosa, then quickly went back to second.
Pedrosa was riding over his head to get into second. He was not going to get the win. His tires is my guess. Rossi was there, Marquez wins again by crashing several times and only knowing it once. That turn one run-off.
I thought at first we were going to see Lorenzo of old run off and win. He must have cooked his tires way early. That is set up considering they were all on Mediums front and rear I think.

Good races all around though Moto2 had me almost napping.

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Fantastic race and astonishing rides from the top three. Even Lorenzo was very speccy at first. Wonder what went wrong there?

One thing that bothered me was Marquez's rejoining the circuit so smoothly after he ran off that time into One, trying to overtake Rossi. It was pretty much run off or crash then for Marquez, so he stood up and ran off. But he rode down the escape road and rejoined after the ess bend alongside Rossi, who was leading, and ahead of Pedrosa. He then slowed a bit and let Pedrosa overtake him - but before the lap was out he'd gone back past Pedrosa and was hunting down Rossi.

I've seen this sort of thing happen in other forms of motorsport and I suppose the rule says only that he can't gain an advantage by leaving the circuit. In which case, technically, he might not even have had to wave Pedrosa past as he was ahead of him when he left the track.

Nevertheless, for me it makes the result a bit artificial. The key advantage Marquez gained by leaving the circuit was avoiding a crash. Neither Rossi nor Pedrosa needed that kind of help - at least until the final couple of corners.

BTW: Is anybody still wanting to tell us that Rossi was a fool to fire Burgess?
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Old 06-15-2014, 12:02 PM   #125
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, I hope he doesn't become another Spies.
You mean a MotoGP race winner? Don't worry, that isn't going to happen.
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Old 06-15-2014, 12:07 PM   #126
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Good race. Was hoping for Anyone But Marquez. Oh well.
+1. Seeing either Rossi and Pedrosa win would have been fantastic.

It's funny reading people's post though and how they interpret the race and it makes me wonder how people can see things so differently than from what I saw/interpreted. One things seems certain though, when Dani shows some speed it certainly brings out the trailer trash.
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Old 06-15-2014, 12:08 PM   #127
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I'm kinda puzzled by Crutchlow's complaining, it is clear enough to the rest of the world what he was climbing onto with the Ducati deal. He had to know better than most of us what he was getting into.
Can't wait to hear the whining after this race.
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Old 06-15-2014, 12:20 PM   #128
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Good race. Was hoping for Anyone But Marquez. Oh well.
As a Rossi fan I was hoping for a win for him, BOTOH, Marquez is something special this year, and a perfect season is historic. And it's hard not to love his sliding through the corners.

How much of the race was Marquez sitting behind Rossi studying him?
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Old 06-15-2014, 12:20 PM   #129
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Can't wait to hear the whining after this race.
Same whine as before. He is not helping himself.

I bet that Tech3 Yamaha with Nissin brakes is in his mind
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Old 06-15-2014, 12:23 PM   #130
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Same whine as before. He is not helping himself.

I bet that Tech3 Yamaha with Nissin brakes is in his mind
What is sad is Ducati could have Hayden riding their bike this year getting at least the same results, and Hayden would be talking about how hard Ducati is trying and how much progress is being made and what a great company Ducati is.

Ducati are idiots.
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Old 06-15-2014, 12:28 PM   #131
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I don't think Pedrosa would have been at fault here--I think it was more of a Marquez "moment" that led to the contact.
In the interview post race it think Pedrobot said Mark was running tighter lines through the corners, upsetting the midget's ( Sorry! Little Person) flow.
That's not brake-checking, that's keeping your lead.

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Rossi almost had it! He need a tiny bit more from his bike the last few laps, he was certainly up for the scrap. He did not look happy at the end of the interviews. He knows he has it.

I wonder if his finishing pace had anything to do with fuel limits?
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Old 06-15-2014, 12:29 PM   #132
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What is sad is Ducati could have Hayden riding their bike this year getting at least the same results, and Hayden would be talking about how hard Ducati is trying and how much progress is being made and what a great company Ducati is.

Ducati are idiots.

True. I'm sure he would've stayed on the shit wagon and acted happy for them.
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Old 06-15-2014, 01:09 PM   #133
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Same whine as before. He is not helping himself.

I bet that Tech3 Yamaha with Nissin brakes is in his mind
I agree that he'd be better served to try and be positive in the press. But would be tough when you are A-type, your bike fails on you a couple of times, your teammate is literally miles in front, and even the nOOb on last year's bike is ahead

As for last year's ride, his option to go to a factory ride/lifestyle (IE Ducati $$) was a given IMO. He wasn't going to bump Val or Jorge, and Honda had no interest either.

I think that once the bike's running right he will be a 3/4/5 contender; maybe next year. He just needs to be patient and shut his cakehole otherwise there's a stream of contenders coming up behind him who are not yet as beat up as he is. Plus the team has to feel somewhat shit on from his comments; also not good. Lose the team's hearts and it's over.
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Old 06-15-2014, 01:27 PM   #134
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What is sad is Ducati could have Hayden riding their bike this year getting at least the same results, and Hayden would be talking about how hard Ducati is trying and how much progress is being made and what a great company Ducati is.

Ducati are idiots.
Yep. They refused to make the changes Vale and Jeremy told them to make. Idiots.
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Old 06-15-2014, 01:36 PM   #135
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If you don't think this is a new golden age of spectating at GP racing, well, your not paying attention. The last two race weekends have provided some absolutely superlative riding and racing. Looking at the helicopter shots it was clear that DP and MM were losing the front several times in most corners. The Traction control was saving the back from coming around several times in most corners too. Pushing to their absolute limit as the bike squirms, slides, twitches and tries to pitch you on your head. Yes!

As for the future, MM has enough personality to fill in the blanks after Rossi retires and seems to have the fan base to make it happen.
Kalio is looking a lot like MM looked a few years ago and that speaks very well for the future of prototype racing.
Miller and Fenati...shee-it, as much fun as this was today, this will be huge fun for years to come! It may prove to be the rivalry of the future. Did I forget to mention the younger Marquez? Can't wait till he lines up against his big brother.

And accolades to the GP feed coverage. The new camera that looks through the corner is super.
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