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Old 07-25-2014, 05:02 AM   #151
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Thinking it makes a better story on the internet.


Show us the video!!! Then we can all hate on the POS lying cops !!

Maybe it was lost with the IRS hard drive crashes.
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Old 07-25-2014, 08:55 AM   #152
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Maybe it was lost with the IRS hard drive crashes.
You could ask the NSA for a copy.
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Old 07-25-2014, 09:17 AM   #153
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You could ask the NSA for a copy.
I tried that when the laptop died at work.... I just sent a few emails back and forth with that request, knowing the NSA would read them, but the NSA never got back to me. I'm still waiting three months later.

Where's my taxpayer money going?
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Old 07-25-2014, 09:33 AM   #154
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I tried that when the laptop died at work.... I just sent a few emails back and forth with that request, knowing the NSA would read them, but the NSA never got back to me. I'm still waiting three months later.

Where's my taxpayer money going?
They are really missing out on the opportunity to increase the revenue stream by not providing that service.
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Old 07-25-2014, 09:46 AM   #155
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They are really missing out on the opportunity to increase the revenue stream by not providing that service.
I'm already paying taxes to fund the NSA and their data collection. I should get this service for free.

However, they could do this with foreign nations, and charge them....
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Old 07-25-2014, 09:46 AM   #156
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I don't want to hijack this too far, but I have a burning question for the LEO here if they are willing to answer...

If writing tickets is not about revenue generation, and it is supposed to be about changing behavior then what is the point of officers hiding so that traffic can not see them? The only possible point of this is to "catch people in the act" with the intent of writing a ticket. Seems like changing behavior could as easily be accomplished through parking in plain sight, most drivers will slow down as soon as they see the officer... Pull over the ones who don't.
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Old 07-25-2014, 10:20 AM   #157
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I don't want to hijack this too far, but I have a burning question for the LEO here if they are willing to answer...

If writing tickets is not about revenue generation, and it is supposed to be about changing behavior then what is the point of officers hiding so that traffic can not see them? The only possible point of this is to "catch people in the act" with the intent of writing a ticket. Seems like changing behavior could as easily be accomplished through parking in plain sight, most drivers will slow down as soon as they see the officer... Pull over the ones who don't.
Not only don't I only want people to behave when they see a police cruiser, I want them to not slow down- read slam on the brakes reflexively- when they see a cop.

As for "hiding" and "pull over the ones that don't slow down"- around here, they don't hide, and they do stop the ones that don't slow down. Friggin' fish in a barrel, they tell me- and again, speeding may be probable cause for the stop, but they write more tickets for other stuff (cell phone, expired tags, insurance, or DL...)
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Old 07-25-2014, 10:24 AM   #158
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Not only don't I only want people to behave when they see a police cruiser, I want them to not slow down- read slam on the brakes reflexively- when they see a cop.

As for "hiding" and "pull over the ones that don't slow down"- around here, they don't hide, and they do stop the ones that don't slow down. Friggin' fish in a barrel, they tell me- and again, speeding may be probable cause for the stop, but they write more tickets for other stuff (cell phone, expired tags, insurance, or DL...)
In the same vein, why doesn't Virginia legalize radar detectors? They produce the desired effect: people slow down when they register police radar coming up....
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Old 07-25-2014, 10:48 AM   #159
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Not only don't I only want people to behave when they see a police cruiser, I want them to not slow down- read slam on the brakes reflexively- when they see a cop.

As for "hiding" and "pull over the ones that don't slow down"- around here, they don't hide, and they do stop the ones that don't slow down. Friggin' fish in a barrel, they tell me- and again, speeding may be probable cause for the stop, but they write more tickets for other stuff (cell phone, expired tags, insurance, or DL...)
Around here it depends on the jurisdiction as to whether they are hiding or not, seems like in VA it is the norm to try and hide. MD not so much, PA only the state police can run radar so most of the state is a race track....
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In the same vein, why doesn't Virginia legalize radar detectors? They produce the desired effect: people slow down when they register police radar coming up....
That's fairly simple. They only slow you down occasionally. They enable drivers to speed more often than they might have without one. Undesired behavior.
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That's fairly simple. They only slow you down occasionally. They enable drivers to speed more often than they might have without one. Undesired behavior.
Very simple alternate explanation, it is a second revenue stream.....
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Old 07-25-2014, 11:35 AM   #162
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That's fairly simple. They only slow you down occasionally. They enable drivers to speed more often than they might have without one. Undesired behavior.
More often than 100% of the time? They enable drivers to speed even faster than without one, more like....
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Old 07-25-2014, 11:59 AM   #163
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In the same vein, why doesn't Virginia legalize radar detectors? They produce the desired effect: people slow down when they register police radar coming up....

People drive slower when they go off but they drive even faster when they do not.
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Old 07-25-2014, 12:09 PM   #164
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Old 07-25-2014, 03:37 PM   #165
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I don't want to hijack this too far, but I have a burning question for the LEO here if they are willing to answer...



If writing tickets is not about revenue generation, and it is supposed to be about changing behavior then what is the point of officers hiding so that traffic can not see them? The only possible point of this is to "catch people in the act" with the intent of writing a ticket. Seems like changing behavior could as easily be accomplished through parking in plain sight, most drivers will slow down as soon as they see the officer... Pull over the ones who don't.

Military police are not allowed to do this for just the reason you stated. The idea is that a traffic patrol is set up based on reports or observations of unsafe driving in an area, a patrol is assigned to that area until the word gets out. I'm sure everybody knows where the cops sit at different points on their commute. They may be there a few days out of a month, but you always remember. No idea if this or any other approach (unmarked cars, cameras, hiding, etc) actually makes life safer.


I've seen some crafty masters at arms hiding behind the bushes though.
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