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Old 08-07-2014, 06:04 AM   #1
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Practicing in parking lots...?

Howdy. Riden on my new Aprilia 750 for little over 1000 miles so far and loving every bit of it. I dont have the same confidence that I had when I was on my 250 and wanted to do some of those braking & handling exercises they teach you in classes.

Has anyone been given slack by police for whipping out some cones and practicing in a parking lot? I can understand how it would look like a bunch of shenanigans and horseplay.
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Old 08-07-2014, 06:19 AM   #2
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It would be a simple thing to call or visit the local PD who would be called out to the parking lot and ask them the question.

Some places have laws that you can't be on a school parking lot. Other places don't.

As long as you don't annoy the neighbors and aren't leaving skid marks and look like you are being careful I doubt they'd have a problem.
They might even wish they could join you.
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Old 08-07-2014, 06:23 AM   #3
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It couldn't hurt to check with local LEOs. The chief of police, in my village, happens to ride. I have a couple of office parks very close to my house. However, they are managed by a security company that's pretty aggressive when it comes to riding around in "their" parking lots. So, check to see if using a parking lot, in that manner, is OK (with all involved).
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Old 08-07-2014, 06:29 AM   #4
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Most parking lots are private property. If you try to contact the property owner for permission (which would make it completely legit), you'll probably just get rejected for fear of potential liability.

Contacting the PD might help or you might just be alerting them ahead of time to your trespassing.

Maybe there is a moto shop or some such around that would be willing to let you practice?

Or just find an abandoned lot somewhere non-residential. Plenty of those around here, not sure what it's like where you're at, though.
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Old 08-07-2014, 06:48 AM   #5
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Howdy. Riden on my new Aprilia 750 for little over 1000 miles so far and loving every bit of it. I dont have the same confidence that I had when I was on my 250 and wanted to do some of those braking & handling exercises they teach you in classes.

Has anyone been given slack by police for whipping out some cones and practicing in a parking lot? I can understand how it would look like a bunch of shenanigans and horseplay.
short answer: beg forgiveness, buy do not ask permission, or it will be denied immediately.


we've had an entire year of regular meets at the same parking lots, for cone work, with no issues from the PD. they come, watch for a few minutes, realize it's a skill building exercise, and maybe 1 out of 20 times roll up to say hello our ask what organization we are.

that's it.

the 3 rules specified for or meets are strict and simple:
no alcohol, period ( doh)
no wheelies/burnouts/marking
if anyone falls, everyone stops, engine off, until the riser is righted and the HELPERS give a thumbs up.

of course picking up trash afterwords is a really good idea, and if a small crowd gathers ( very common) , keep them at a safe distance and informed it's a riding, not a spectators , event.

displaying your intentions by action usually means a lot more tip officers then asking to setup a race course :
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Old 08-07-2014, 06:59 AM   #6
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Tennis balls cut in half. They take up way less space.
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Tennis balls cut in half. They take up way less space.
They also suck less to run over!
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:30 AM   #8
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Perhaps you guys are on to something but the phrase "balls cut in half" just makes me cringe.
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:37 AM   #9
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I have never been bothered, obviously best to find a place that's not busy..out of business places are great, we a large hardware store that went out of business that was perfect for training...no customers, no police, no people, no problem!
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:40 AM   #10
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Perhaps you guys are on to something but the phrase "balls cut in half" just makes me cringe.
+1 I play tennis and my balls are quite valuable. It always sucks when you lose them. Wait, we're talking about tennis balls right?

Walmart has the nice flatter disc cones which was what I was planning on using. : )

They fit into my camera bag quite nicely.
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:44 AM   #11
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Go to your local MSF class site.
Lots or painted with dots for cone placement. small plastic cups work well for cones.
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Go to your local MSF class site.
Lots or painted with dots for cone placement. small plastic cups work well for cones.
That's actually a pretty great idea. My local MSF operates out of a community college. On weekends, it's just a huge empty parking lot (unless there's an MSF class running) that literally no one would give a shit about if they saw a guy on a moto doing figure 8s.
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Go to your local MSF class site.
Lots or painted with dots for cone placement. small plastic cups work well for cones.
This is a great plan. The RC for the session I was in told us that whenever there wasn't a class in session, we were free to come practice on the marked range (which is in a never-used expansion parking lot near a mall) but that we were obviously doing it at our own risk.
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Old 08-07-2014, 08:34 AM   #14
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Easier to ask for forgiveness than permission...

Just do it, don't be an idiot while you are doing it, and clean up after yourself. If anyone complains, say you are sorry and move on.

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Old 08-07-2014, 09:02 AM   #15
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I have never asked permission to use a lot for practice, I have had the police stop to see what I was doing exactly zero times. They have driven by but never stopped. Keep it reasonable and they should not have any issues, if they do stop and ask explain what you are doing and why.
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