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Old 07-31-2014, 05:26 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by Jeff aka BOLT View Post
It'd be a Honda clone motor... I cringe at the idea of dealing with CARB at all. Almost prefer to sell 49 state and tell CA guys to buy it in another state. Wouldn't even try to go street legal in CA unless we developed other more serious products down the road.

It's an idea... kicking around a lot of them right now... time will tell.
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Old 07-31-2014, 06:28 PM   #17
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It doesn't look to be a honda motor or any other internal combustion type. That looks to be electric.
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Old 07-31-2014, 07:42 PM   #18
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Old 07-31-2014, 07:44 PM   #19
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I stand corrected.
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Old 07-31-2014, 09:16 PM   #20
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That article is pretty funny... "The company" some dude in Russia selling paper plans for $50.

If we decide to produce it there will be a bit of refinement... ok a fucking LOT of refinement.

So my question is this... if it was pretty... had name brand tires... a Honda e-start engine... and didn't look like you would die riding it... retail for $1795-1995 US... would it sell ?
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Old 08-01-2014, 03:57 AM   #21
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would it sell

The last time I looked the cheapest rokons were 5 to 6 grand, so yea that market would probably jump at a less expensive, quality competetor, just dont refine it to the point it loses the essence of what it is. simple effective and light. ironbasher
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Old 08-01-2014, 01:52 PM   #22
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somehow put pedals on it so it will be considered a moped
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Old 08-03-2014, 07:14 PM   #23
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The U.S. version of the Rokon, called the Rokon Trail-Breaker, is made in New Hampshire. It's featured in the July issue of Dirt Rider magazine. I'm looking at the article right now.

Unfortunately, it costs $7625 and the dry weight is 218 lbs. Yet at that weight, it still floats. It's fitted with a 208cc, 7-hp Kohler four-stroke single. The seat height is 33", it holds 2.7 gallons of gas, and the top speed is 35 mph. The hollow rims hold 2.5 gallons of fuel or water each, but won't float unless filled with air.

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Old 08-04-2014, 06:31 AM   #24
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Originally Posted by Jeff aka BOLT View Post
My business partner wants to start making and selling those... NO JOKE.

I told him no way... you guys think this thing could sell here ?

Getting it past CARB for green/red sticker would suck. Never get it on the street unless you go to AZ.

Let me know what you think for real. He really wants to do it.
I agree with you.... no way. Can't see me having any use for it, even if it's $500. I have jet skis if I need something that floats. You may get it licensed here, but will get run over by a jacked up golf cart when you can't get it over 15 mph!

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Old 08-04-2014, 03:29 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by Jeff aka BOLT View Post
Three very different machines...

Try putting a Rokon in your trunk. Hell try picking one up... with two guys.

Rokon 350 pounds... This bike is about 150 pounds and costs half that of a Rokon.
The last test I saw on a Rokon it was said to be 235lbs or so. Cycle World just tested 1.
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Old 08-05-2014, 10:03 AM   #26
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I like the Russian guy's website, especially where he is asking for seed money. Hell, why not? It's going to be innovation from people who are not in the norm to design and build something out of the norm.

Then again, there's always this:

I thought that looked like a lot of fun till I found it weighs about as much as a GS1200. Still, a 750, fat-tired motorcycle would be a hoot.
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Old 08-06-2014, 12:30 PM   #27
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Did anybody else notice how tiny it was? I needed ibuprofen for my knees after watching the videos...
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Old 08-24-2014, 03:36 PM   #28
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I have a 2005 Rokon Trailbreaker. My manual says 208lbs dry. The newer models have a slightly larger/heavier engine and heavier front suspension forks. Mine is still about double the weight of the Russian Taurus. Of course, it also has a longer wheelbase and a nice cargo rack behind the seat.

I just took the Rokon out for a ride this morning, up a very steep trail to an old mine site. No way would my 2014 WR250R Yamaha have made it up there, even with much lower-than-factory gearing and a Tubliss/D606 in back. Many parts of the trail are steeply stacked decomposed granite gravel. The WRR---or any bike that drives with only the rear wheel---struggles with that sort of trail. Of course, the WRR can buzz down dirt roads at highway speeds and make legal hops on paved sections, both of which are out of reach for the Rokon.
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