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Old 08-05-2014, 01:47 AM   #1
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north island forestry roads

whats the go?

after returning to nz after time away in oz it seems all so different. checking out possible riding areas between tauranga and taupo they all seem to be sign posted no go areas… trespassers prosecuted, permits req'd blah blah etc

as a younger fella i did do some spotting for the nelson/marlborough forestry guys in small planes but that was only in summer in case of fires.

do we

ignore, and carry on regardless?
tape up number plates and keep an eye out?
park the ute and trailer surreptitiously and go about the riding quietly?
or just keep the fuck out and ride at the tect park? which is closed for riding anyway.

anyone actually know first hand of any prosecutions? sounds like its all down to osh and acc nonsense. injury liability on leased land?

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Old 08-05-2014, 01:51 AM   #2
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Get a decent map and find the gravel roads that are public. Dig around on Google and find surveyed roads. Look at doc land. Some have great roads which can be accessed by the public. For example Molesworth station. And 42nd traverse. (I think I have that right)

I organized a ride a couple of years ago that crossed council stations and forestry. It took a few phone calls but was worth it.

Personally I dislike trespassing. I respect others property as I would wish others to respect mine.

But I get seriously cranky when people restrict access to public right of ways.

Are you coming on the mmmm? You might find there's more about than you think.

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Old 08-05-2014, 02:01 AM   #3
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sadly i'm working peet (pete?).

i do respect private property but i struggle with crown land that is leased for the purposes of making money, paying f all tax and still locked up for bullshit osh/acc liability excuses.

i'd be grateful for suggestions on which maps i should be looking at.
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Old 08-05-2014, 02:07 AM   #4
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Just had a search on doc site. http://www.doc.govt.nz/parks-and-rec...o/42-traverse/

Type 4wd in the search looks like doc hac a number of 4x4 tracks available.
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Old 08-05-2014, 02:11 AM   #5
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I started with the good old paper land and survey maps. Look for dotted lines. They may indicate a walking track or a surveyed road.
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Old 08-05-2014, 02:12 AM   #6
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Clint had a great website for tramping which showed a lot of public access stuff.
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Old 08-05-2014, 02:16 AM   #7
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Can't Remember who did this site but it's a good start http://www.adventureridingnz.co.nz/g...island-tracks/
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Old 08-05-2014, 02:22 AM   #8
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thank you peet.

sorry for my frustration. i've just moved back from a continent bigger than the usa that advriders have as their own backyard.
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Getting back to your question. One of the reasons private companies get nervous about access is the fire risk. Some insurance won't cover organized events. And as unlikely as it is, accidents do happen. If you look at the amount of vandalism, rubbish tipping, dope growing, arsonists, poaching and other assorted dumb shit that forest tracks seem to attract I don't blame them for wanting to keep Joe numpty clogs public out.

I loved having access to forests around Melbourne but saw a lot of damage from 4x4's too. In summer it's fire risk. In winter it might be about stopping dick heads digging up your tracks.

Maybe it's just as simple as wanting to know "who is in my forest, when and why".

If you find a track you like the look of. Why don't you track down who is responsible and see if you can get permission. You might be surprised.

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I think that's the most I've written on advrider in the last 2 years
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Old 08-05-2014, 02:55 AM   #11
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no argument peet guess i've just been lucky

a couple of leads to start with and tie in with my own homework so far

thanks.

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Old 08-05-2014, 01:31 PM   #12
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The private forestry companies all get pretty toey about people riding dirtbikes on their patch, if their security guys catch you, you will probably get a trespass notice. However forestry companies will often attempt to gate off public areas for their own convenience in which case...

For checking on what is public land or public road have a look at WAMS

Generally though you have to know where to go. There are a few places to ride around the area, come over one weekend & I'll show you our little playground just up the road.

Best way to get in some offfroad riding is to take in a few organised trail rides - heaps on around the central Nth Is, especially over winter.

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Old 08-05-2014, 07:17 PM   #13
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hi clint thanks for that link. your rotoiti, is that just east of rotorua, ie lake rotoiti?
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Yep, Gisborne Point on Hwy 30, about 13km east of the Hwy 30/33 intersection.

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This one is legit http://www.adventureridingnz.co.nz/g...ie-cecil-road/

But the roads heading north and south fromt he middle of it are not it seems

Freom Clint's awesome MMMMM ride: http://www.adventureridingnz.co.nz/g...s/lake-rotoma/

Near Taupo: http://www.adventureridingnz.co.nz/g...aimanawa-wall/
http://www.adventureridingnz.co.nz/g...-north-island/
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