BMW G310GS Thread

Is that sarcasm in your voice? In case its not, then, yes, I think something very much like Honda's African Twin, or even like the old TransAlp, packaged like the CRF250L Rally would be ideal, with a nice little 550cc parallel twin. It might seem like I'm a Honda guy, which I'm really not, but I think in general they have gotten then ADV thing right. Now, I'm not an experienced adventure rider, or at least I have very limited experience riding so-called ADV bikes, but I know a good motorcycle when I see one, for the most part. And to my way of thinking that's all a good ADV bike really is...a good all-around bike.
I want something that will be smooth, powerful, and comfortable enough to be good for 3-400 miles on the highway, to get me to remote areas where maybe I'm gonna ride 50 or 100 miles overland, on fire roads, county roads, or up forest service roads to camping areas, etc. When I think of an adventure bike I think of "undeveloped roads" and "jeep trails", so it needs to do more than be able to slog through some mudholes and slide through fast gravel sweepers. Up here in Montana there are some gnarly roads leading deep into the mountains that many so-called adventure bikes would severely struggle with. I'm not saying you couldn't maybe do some of it on that R1200GS, but I don't want to. Trust me, I've had a tough time with 250cc enduro bikes on some of these roads, so to me the thought of heaving up a huge liter-class bike after a tumble (cuz tumbles are GONNA happen, right?) isn't really appealing. That's just my 2 cents

LOL ya I think I'm gonna get schooled. Its cool; I'm new :)

TR650? is that a typo?

I'll have to give you the "middle" finger for such a blasphemous post.



http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/r...asaki-klr650-vs-ktm-690-enduro-r-singles-club

Conclusion
Kawasaki, Husqvarna, and KTM’s design teams all think they’ve created the best dual sport on the market. And depending on your needs and expectations, they have.

If your cash flow is low but your travel goals are grand, Kawasaki’s legendary KLR650 makes the most sense. The big KLR will go anywhere the other two bikes will, and makes up for its size and slowness with massive range, more comfort, and relentless reliability. If all you’re after is something with a license plate so you can get from home to the trail head, KTM’s feisty 690 Enduro R is the clear choice. It may put your hands to sleep and strain your neck on pavement, but off road it’s light, agile, powerful, and unstoppable. Just ask five-time Dakar winner Cyril Despres. These conclusions will surprise no one.

So, where does the new Terra fit in? For the average rider looking for all-surface transportation—us included—Husqvarna’s TR650 Terra strikes the best balance of on- and off-road performance. The Terra is an undeniably good deal, reasonably sized, respectably appointed, and attractively styled. And it’s as close to a winner as this type of exploratory comparison is going to get.

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Husqvarna TR650 Terra | Price $6999
Engine type: l-c single

Valve train: DOHC, 4v

Displacement: 652cc

Bore x stroke: 100.0 x 83.0mm

Compression: 12.3:1

Fuel system: EFI

Clutch: Wet, multi-plate

Transmission: 5-speed

Frame: Tubular-steel split-backbone

Front suspension: Sachs 46mm fork

Rear suspension: Sacks shock with adjustable spring preload and rebound damping

Front brake: Brembo two-piston caliper, 300mm disc

Rear brake: Brembo one-piston caliper, 240mm disc

Front tire: 90/90-21 Metzeler Sahara Enduro 3

Rear tire: 140/80-18 Metzeler Sahara Enduro 3

Rake/trail: 27.0°/4.4 in.

Seat height: 34.4 in.

Wheelbase: 59.1 in.

Fuel capacity: 3.6 gal.

Weight (tank full/empty): 408/384 lbs.

Measured horsepower: 48.2 bhp @ 7100 rpm ( I thought it was higher than that, 52 or so)

Measured torque: 38.4 lb.-ft. @ 5800 rpm

Fuel mileage (hi/low/avg.): 50/39/45 mpg

Colors: Red/white

Available: Now

Warranty: 12 mo., unlimited mi

Looks like Amersfoort81 just posted a video on YouTube.

He/she really puts the bike through her paces.


4:20 the Speedway action starts.

120kmph seems like easy cruising. 74mph.

374lbs GS trim
ABS Switchable
185-210 mile range

What else do you need?

Yep...if that's the case, the new bimmer is worth 5 bucks....it looks like a Chinese piece of shit from 10 years ago.

For you to figure out how to post links in this forum so we don't have to go hunting for the videos you tout.

Don't

Don't mind the FIGJAM enduro legends on here. They love to heap derision on "noobs" since it's the internet. Of course if you actually met them I'm reasonably sure they'd be great guys. Well most of them.

He either post an odd reference or copy & pastes the whole freaking internet over here.
I prefer the odd reference over his more typical bandwidth assaults.

Never play with a box of marches, don't clutch them in your claws

Sorry

My Droid went through some changes and I can't get YouTube on chrome anymore.

I really liked posting YouTube links.

Hopefully I'll be back in the fight soon.

Your description fits my DR650 perfectly! "a good all-around bike" that does distance and off road equally well.

Well done!

Ride safe,

Taz9

Your safe if ya post some dog pics, or glean some from the Internet and claim them as your own...

How many shuffles in a March? Or is it ides?

thanks Cuttlefish...ya, this isn't my first rodeo...so far they are extremely gentle. All I can say is you cant hate a guy for dreamin!

And that's why I'm in the market for a DR650 Taz! We all have different needs, but from what I can glean from all the articles and videos I've read and seen, the DR best fits my description. I wish they made it in a 500cc version, about 30lbs lighter, maybe with a small upper fairing like the old RS models, but with some work I think the big Suzie Q can be a near ideal ADV mount.

k whats with the dogs? not getting the joke there....

Hopefully within 5 years we will have the liquid cooled DRZ stripped down and rebuilt to a 450-500cc bike and made more toward your specs... well not 60 hp. That is just Unicorn.

When I first got into ADV TOURING, late 2013, the two bikes I narrowed it down two was a left over 2012 S10 and a left over 2013 DR650.
Starting on January 10th of 2014, I put about 22,000 miles on her before Halloween.
I still have her at almos 29,000 miles. No issues but a cam chain tensioner gasket that was a quick fix (2016).

Back then the DR had more value than a KLR, but in February of 2014, Kawi snuck in the New Edition with the improved Suspension and narrow seat ( less sag). If they would released that bike 40 days early, the score card would have been better than the DR, and I would have bought her. The Suspension in the 2008-2014 KLR was beyond terriable.

Now, from what I've researched, the KLR has now dropped to fourth in my brand new bike list.
CRF250L Rally ABS
Versys X 300
G310GS
KLR650
DR650

Hopefully, KTM will enter the fight soon with The Amazing Duke 390 platform.
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I've hit the part of the year where we will not hear about any new bikes or find out anything new (except the 310GS)

I'll return in mid August for the list of best MC of the year, and hopefully some fresh info on the GS.

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You have the con.

On the 690 banking on even 150 miles on a tank of gas is risky.

I'm surprised you would put a 24 HP Honda 250 at the top of your wish list. Have you done any adventure touring on such a pipsqueak? What does it have over your current DR650, with almost twice the HP, loads more torque, and exactly the same weight?

I do like the looks of the Versys X300 as a sweet little around-town commuter.