Yamaha Tenere 700 Tubeless thread

And they are back! Took 2.5 weeks from shipping to Italy and getting them back. Communication during the whole process was perfect. Wheels were well packed. Will install tomorrow and give a more in-depth review the coming weeks/months.

Just a post-trip report. Just a touch under 4500 miles in 12 days riding from Florida Panhandle to Durango Colorado to ride the COBDR. Out-chopped from Encampment Wyoming for return leg. Temps ranged from a low of 42°F to a high of 100°F.

Pressures ranged from 30/32psig F/R for slab work down to 26/24psig for off-piste riding. ZERO issues with the sealed spoke head/4412 combination. I do plan to add a Cyclops TPMS unit, as the cheaper unit that I was using is rechargeable was problematic with the front sensor. Likely a battery, but I forgot the pack the proprietary tools to disassemble the remote sending unit. The Cyclops is 12volt and will be one less thing to charge daily on long haul rides.

Good! What's that GPS? Is that a Garmin 775, if so what mount do you have?

It is a Garmin XT with a GlareStomper shroud on a Motopumps locking mount. Solid combination for ADV work.

Bummer. I have the RV 775, basically because I like the big screen and it has these cool HEMA maps with all the tracks etc.
But it's 1.9 x 17.3 x 9.9 x cm
Yours 2.54 x 14.73 x 8.89 cm

So your mount won't fit. I can't seem to find a mount wide enough for mine so I carry it in the saddlebag for now.

https://www.traveluniverse.com.au/Garmin-RV-775-MT-S-Navigation/753759216832

I thought this was a tubeless thread!?!?!

I think GPS's are all solid state, so no tubes.

I saw what you did there.

Nobody was whining about tape versus silicone so I guess a sidebar was appropriate.

I look forward to the review. Another thing that would be interesting is how hard it is to change tires? I've read that you have to be extra careful not to damage the rubber seal when you change tires.

I will post a review after I have used them for a prolonged time. I’ve only ridden 500km/311mi with the tubeless tires, most of it on the grey stuff. They absolutely hold their pressure. Noticed a 0.1 psi drop on the rear tire in 2 weeks. Front is still on same pressure.

My 1290 SAR had the same kind of band on the rim. Yes, you need to be careful not to damage it whilst changing tires but it has never been a real problem. Think the newer BMW’s have a better design, with spokes more to the outside of the rim and therefore don’t need a band around the middle of the rim (but I could be wrong).

I know Bartubeless offers some kind of paste in case you need to change a spoke/poked a hole in the band.

Not just on newer ones; BMW introduced that innovative tubeless design with the R1100GS in 1995 and they've been using it on their GSs ever since.

Make that 1988 on the R100GS.

I had a 92 R80 GS for 18 years with those tubeless wheels. No problems with them in all that time

I stand corrected!

Makes me wonder why some manufacturers still use the “band on the rim” method? Imho a (unnecessary) point that can fail. What is the downside to having the spokes more to the outside, more prone to damage?

Cost

It makes a heavier rim, which I don't think is a big deal on a touring bike that will be loaded down anyway.

It appears most after market rim suppliers offer 21 by 2.15 for front and 18 by 4.25 for rear. Do these sizes have any problems fitting on the bike itself?

Does anyone know if the hub on the rear wheel is centered or offset. I replaced the nipples in preparation for tubeless conversion and need to take the rim to make sure it is still true. The mechanic needs to know if the hub is centered or not.

For those who grinded down their spoke nipples at the rear wheel before installing sealing tape, as described for example in the outex manual:

What grinding tool did you use? What did proof handy for that job?

I would guess some Dremel-like grinding insert, if so which shape and diameter?